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Old 02-27-2016, 09:18 PM
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I know that this topic has been covered in terms of the GT4 as an investment, but are there any parallels that folks believe will apply from previous GT cars / understanding that those have all been 911 variants.

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Old 02-27-2016, 09:47 PM
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IMO, you cannot (yet) compare it to the 911 variants, who have racing lineage/history..
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I think it'll really depend on 2 things. How people react to the turbo cayman and boxsters. And what they do for the .2 version of the gt4. Lots of variables. As long as it doesn't fall off a cliff and it's worth 20k next year I don't care.
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It depends on whether you took it out of the box.
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I think the production quantity of the GT4 is too high for it to do much in terms of appreciation. At best it will depreciate more slowly than the run of the mill Caymans
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^+1 There is about zero chance it will appreciate.
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Originally Posted by ShakeNBake
^+1 There is about zero chance it will appreciate.
Oh shiet... time for everyone to sell sell sell...
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Originally Posted by bhk1004
Oh shiet... time for everyone to sell sell sell...
There is a pecking order....

And, it clear Porsche thinks so as well. I get the same "Get to know your cayman" literature from porsche as you get for a base model Cayman. Even BMW does better with the M3/M4.

It's a cayman. It may hold it's value pretty well, but it's not a 911 GT car.
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Originally Posted by ShakeNBake
It's a cayman. It may hold it's value pretty well, but it's not a 911 GT car.
I'm going to have to agree with this. The GT4 will do OK in the long run, but the 911 will always be top dog in the Porsche pack.
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I would prefer it not appreciate like the 911 GT cars. I still want to be able to enjoy the car and drive it like its meant to be driven for years to come without having to feel guilty about it.
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Originally Posted by ShakeNBake
^+1 There is about zero chance it will appreciate.
Please find me one for sale under MSRP.

The GT4 has already appreciated $10-$15k. GT4s that are being heavily tracked will probably come under MSRP ( in due time ) but those people are not concerned about appreciation.

The GT4 is an awesome car and I see no reason why it would lose it's appeal. The Gt4 was under priced from the get go. I belive the .2 version will have a lot to do with .1 values but you can count on the .2 getting a hefty bump in price.

Until the .2 I see GT4 prices holding steady at + MSRP money.
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As far as the 911 being top dog ( yes I know what's coming ) the 959,918 and Carrera GT would be top dog in my book. The new 911's are just to big ( for me ) and I would be more inclined to buy an older vintage. There is few 911's I would put above the GT4 in the last 10 years or so and out of those few how much $$ you need makes it un realistic for me. The GT4 fills a perfect void.

Can someone give me a 911 worth less than the GT4 that you would rather have in the past 10 years or so.

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Old 02-28-2016, 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ShakeNBake
There is a pecking order....

And, it clear Porsche thinks so as well. I get the same "Get to know your cayman" literature from porsche as you get for a base model Cayman. Even BMW does better with the M3/M4.

It's a cayman. It may hold it's value pretty well, but it's not a 911 GT car.
A 914 has appreciated about 500%. Pecking order or not it's almost certain that the GT4 will appreciate, it's just a question of how long and how much.
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IMO the pecking order argument is too simplistic for this car.

The first of something / last of something collector logic will still apply (this being the first GT4)

It'll also be one of the last true manuals. Does't need to be the absolute last... Just needs to be towards the end in context when we're all looking back in 20 years.

It'll also be one of the last true N/A driver's cars. Just look at it in context of what else you can get from Porsche today.

This car was hot out of the gates, and selling at a premium because it was exactly what people we looking for.

That's not always the case with low volume Porsches. Even the 918 has questions over whether they could shift the whole production run. Many low volume 911 variants were difficult to shift when new and went for discounts.

This is one more thing that makes this a great car. It will depreciate relatively slowly - but still depreciate - and as such can be fully enjoyed as intended.

It'll certainly make people money in the future.

There's a very modern Porsche that's doing very interesting things on the depreciation curve. Less of a mechanical special than the GT4 and less physically distinct from the rest of its range than the GT4 is, but still with some nice custom styling touches; and also around the 2K production run number: The 991 50th Anniversary. And I like many were offered steep discounts on that car only a few short years ago.

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Originally Posted by Ochocoronas
Please find me one for sale under MSRP.

The GT4 has already appreciated $10-$15k. GT4s that are being heavily tracked will probably come under MSRP ( in due time ) but those people are not concerned about appreciation.

The GT4 is an awesome car and I see no reason why it would lose it's appeal. The Gt4 was under priced from the get go. I belive the .2 version will have a lot to do with .1 values but you can count on the .2 getting a hefty bump in price.

Until the .2 I see GT4 prices holding steady at + MSRP money.
Yup, I would be one of those people....getting so many smiles at tracking this car.


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