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Old 02-11-2016, 01:03 PM
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First off has anyone had experiance or owned the First Edition TT RS?

Seriously looking at the next one to hit the streets next year. Around 400 BHP and finally a Twin Clutch means sub 4 second 0 to Sixty MPH runs. Only issue I'm wondering about is will the Suspension be able to run with the GT4? Even with a slight Premium if the dealer chooses to charge one the Audi TT RS will be an excellent Cross Shop for the 718 (Durp, posted early) Series Porsches.

Any views and comments?

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Old 02-11-2016, 01:12 PM
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what do you mean "run with the GT4" ? Drag Strip? Track? Street? As a DD?

They are not really in the same category IMO. No Audi I've owned or driven was a good track car - they're not designed to be.
Old 02-11-2016, 01:18 PM
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I've had a MK2 TT 3.2, TTS and RS. Driven the new Mk3 TTS as well. Compared to Porsche's steering/suspension feel is subpar... numb. I also feel that they design awesome modern interiors at the time of launch, but they feel dated by the end of the lifecycle. Also the lack of Manual is a no go for me... though the latest rumor is that they are testing a manual now for the RS (more than likely due to the success of the GT4). Doubt it will come stateside though. Unlike Porsche, Audi doesn't offer the good stuff all the time to the USA. TT volume in the USA is tiny and they can't justify certification costs for with no/negative profit.
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Originally Posted by The New 911
.... Audi TT RS will be an excellent Cross Shop for the 917 Series Porsches.

Any views and comments?
Huh?

Old 02-11-2016, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by The New 911
Only issue I'm wondering about is will the Suspension be able to run with the GT4?
Not a chance. It would be most comparable to a Spyder at best. Audis also have horrifically numb steering IMHO, even on the R8 V10.

Originally Posted by The New 911
Even with a slight Premium if the dealer chooses to charge one the Audi TT RS will be an excellent Cross Shop for the 917 Series Porsches.
Pretty sure you mean 718....
Old 02-11-2016, 01:58 PM
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mk3 TTRS will be a mega DD

I loved my 430BHp mk 2 TTRS, it had better steering feel than any 991 or 981.

Depends what you are after I guess
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Back when I had my 987 Spyder, and was looking to upgrade, I test drove an RS5 and a TTRS. Fast cars, but like most have stated, teeeerrible steering feel compared to the Spyder/GT4, not to mention you can really feel the weight of the car.
Old 02-11-2016, 02:23 PM
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Had a TTRS. Biggest problems - it's heavy, it's AWD (can you say understeer?), it's turbocharged. Clutch was very light. Nothing like a sports car.

Nowhere near the driver's car the 987 cars are. Steering is numb at best. It is a relatively fast car and a great DD if you live where AWD is needed. It does have many options for the young tuner crowd.

I have driven the new version of the TT/TTS. Handling is improved, however is not Boxster/Cayman sharp. Of course, the 981 versions are not quite as good as the 987 versions. I'm one who believes the 987 Boxster Spyder and Cayman R are two of the best driver's cars Porsche has made in a long time.

Might be worth a look if/when the new one arrives. Of course, it won't have the awesome seats Europe gets.
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Originally Posted by sliollio
Back when I had my 987 Spyder, and was looking to upgrade, I test drove an RS5 and a TTRS. Fast cars, but like most have stated, teeeerrible steering feel compared to the Spyder/GT4, not to mention you can really feel the weight of the car.
It's got to be a branding-based design choice. There are plenty of models under the VW umbrella that have good to great steering feel, including obviously Porsche's lineup, that Audi could use to improve their steering if they wanted to do so, and since they haven't after many years, I've concluded that maybe they just cater to customers who want to be able to drive their cars with one finger. That probably extended even to the R8 because Audi wanted to build something that their typical A8/S8 customer would appreciate, so maintaining some of that familiarity might have been a priority. My first impressions driving the R8 was that there was too much Audi in the Audi (semi-)supercar, but that may well have been by design.
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this might help, but since the new ttrs is not out ......
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I had one with stage 1 ARP. Fast as ****, but it handled like pig. Even with upgraded Haldex controller and bigger rear bar it still sucked.

The problem is the ESC algorithms. I spent hours and hours trying to shut that crap off. I even switched the car to right hand drive...nothing. I sold it after 2 months.

The brakes are another issue....pads are big bucks.

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Old 02-11-2016, 05:09 PM
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The new TT RS might come with optional manual transmission.

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/spy-sho...s-911-baiting/


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I use one for dd since new. Also own a 991 GT3 and GT4.

TT rs very fast and with some reasonable suspension mods and tires is a good DE car. Car is not heavy at 3300 lbs from factory, mine is now under 3200, but the car is a front engine, front wheel drive biased AWD car and thus "heavy "in the front like a 911 is "heavy " in the rear . It pushes and you learn to drive around or through it. With a good map, exhaust and suspension mods I have embarrassed plenty vets and pre 458 F cars. Front tires do cycle quickly but they are consumables.

I needed the extra seats for kids so as a dd the rs is very practical and very capable. If you want a more dedicated track car stick with the Boxster or cayman if you don't need the practicality, but a well configured RS will drive around you if well driven.
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Thank you for your input.

I would order a Twin Clutch Because of LA Driving.

By the end of the day it's still a solid $40K less than a GT4. Not Knocking the GT4 at all. Factory steering can always be sharpened up. But I will leave it at that.

Again thank you for your comment's.
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IIRC, Audi TTs are in the 3400-3500-lb range, aren't they? If so, I would think that alone kills pretty much any chance of them being able to run with a GT4 by any metric.


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