GT4: Michelin vs Dunlop
#16
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GT4: Michelin vs Dunlop
The set on my GT3 lasted 6k miles, 4 track days and still have some life. Slide your scale accordingly based on use. My guess is 10k miles and no track or 8 track days and no street.
I imagine the GT4 maybe a bit longer due to weight and balance.
I imagine the GT4 maybe a bit longer due to weight and balance.
#17
Hi Guys
My GT4 is confirmed for a September build and a November delivery, however to my surprise when i went to visit my dealership they were about to deliver one with Dunlop tires instead of Michelin. The sales guy told me that for this specific production month they came all fitted with Dunlop. Personally i prefer Michelin as they are a bit more durable around the track. Are you guys aware of that? as i thought it only comes with Michelin...
My GT4 is confirmed for a September build and a November delivery, however to my surprise when i went to visit my dealership they were about to deliver one with Dunlop tires instead of Michelin. The sales guy told me that for this specific production month they came all fitted with Dunlop. Personally i prefer Michelin as they are a bit more durable around the track. Are you guys aware of that? as i thought it only comes with Michelin...
I hope your car comes with Michelins, this way we can compare.
See you on Dubai roads.
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The Dunlop is a good road tire, and adequate on track for novice and intermediate drivers, but it will disintegrate when subjected to hard track use. The Sport Cup 2 is vastly superior for track use.
#20
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My thoughts exactly Chris.
My first week will include an hour on the track in Leipzig, 1,500 miles through Europe including passes in the Alps, then about 20 laps on Nurburgring. Probably will burn through the Dunlops. So, I'm not stressing over what tires came with the car as I will have new Michelins installed when it arrives in the states.
On a related topic - seams cold weather storage is a problem for the Michelin Cup 2s as I've seen pics and reports of them cracking in sub-freezing temps and Michelin saying don't store them freezing temperatures. Not a problem here in Florida but would be concern for those way up north. Will your wife let you store them in the spare bedroom? !!!
My first week will include an hour on the track in Leipzig, 1,500 miles through Europe including passes in the Alps, then about 20 laps on Nurburgring. Probably will burn through the Dunlops. So, I'm not stressing over what tires came with the car as I will have new Michelins installed when it arrives in the states.
On a related topic - seams cold weather storage is a problem for the Michelin Cup 2s as I've seen pics and reports of them cracking in sub-freezing temps and Michelin saying don't store them freezing temperatures. Not a problem here in Florida but would be concern for those way up north. Will your wife let you store them in the spare bedroom? !!!
#23
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They are both great tires with amazing dry grip. The Dunlops performs slightly better on wet roads. However the Michelin will perform better, hold up & last much longer on the track. So if you are planning to track your car, you would be better off with Michelins, otherwise it really should not matter what tire do you get. The car should be a blast with either tire. Mark
#24
My car is confirmed for Last week of Aug delivery, on the spec sheet I received from the SA it is coming with Dunlops, I was a bit disappointed especially since I will be street driving it 90% of the time. Dunlops treadwear rating is 80 compared to 180 for the Michelins so lifetime is significantly shorter from what I have been reading
I hope your car comes with Michelins, this way we can compare.
See you on Dubai roads.
I hope your car comes with Michelins, this way we can compare.
See you on Dubai roads.
Just came back from vacation, will check with my SA if they already know about my tire fittings. see you soon on the roads
#25
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I emailed my SA regarding what tire will be coming with my car, which was built in the first week of July. Turns out it is coming with Dunlops ( Prob in the end of Aug beginning of Sept)
I was looking forward to the Michelin's but its was not to be...
I am planning on doing a few track events in the future, so I am assuming I will get 6K miles out of them before the next tire change
Ironically where I live (being its a pretty temperate climiate and we have been in a drought for the past 4 yrs the Michelins might have been a better choice
Hey, I am just happy I am getting a car
Regards
Ed
ps I was reading in a earlier post that the Dunlops are an 80 treadwear rating ?? Wow that is low ( My RA1's have that or a higher rating )
I was looking forward to the Michelin's but its was not to be...
I am planning on doing a few track events in the future, so I am assuming I will get 6K miles out of them before the next tire change
Ironically where I live (being its a pretty temperate climiate and we have been in a drought for the past 4 yrs the Michelins might have been a better choice
Hey, I am just happy I am getting a car
Regards
Ed
ps I was reading in a earlier post that the Dunlops are an 80 treadwear rating ?? Wow that is low ( My RA1's have that or a higher rating )
#26
Burning Brakes
You can't compare treadwear ratings between manufacturers, as the "baseline" is all over the map. Hell, sometimes you can't even compare tires made by the same manufacturer, as many are gaming the system to make their "street" tires eligible for street tire classes. Those in the know figure the Dunlops and Michelins are about equally sticky, with the Michelins maybe wearing slightly better.
#27
Drifting
Interesting, from what I've read in Manifold's posts where he summarizes impressions from owners around the world, it's not unusual for 991 GT3s to get 8 track days out of the Cup 2s. It seems your GT3 was a 997.2 based on your sig? Was it running Cup 2s as well or the original Cups? Either way, between the GT4's lower weight and lower horsepower which means less longitudinal acceleration coming onto straights and less braking to do at the other end, I'm optimistic about the life I can expect out of them.
#28
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You can't compare treadwear ratings between manufacturers, as the "baseline" is all over the map. Hell, sometimes you can't even compare tires made by the same manufacturer, as many are gaming the system to make their "street" tires eligible for street tire classes. Those in the know figure the Dunlops and Michelins are about equally sticky, with the Michelins maybe wearing slightly better.
Well thanks for trying to make me feel better anyway
#29
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You can't compare treadwear ratings between manufacturers, as the "baseline" is all over the map. Hell, sometimes you can't even compare tires made by the same manufacturer, as many are gaming the system to make their "street" tires eligible for street tire classes. Those in the know figure the Dunlops and Michelins are about equally sticky, with the Michelins maybe wearing slightly better.
#30
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Interesting, from what I've read in Manifold's posts where he summarizes impressions from owners around the world, it's not unusual for 991 GT3s to get 8 track days out of the Cup 2s. It seems your GT3 was a 997.2 based on your sig? Was it running Cup 2s as well or the original Cups? Either way, between the GT4's lower weight and lower horsepower which means less longitudinal acceleration coming onto straights and less braking to do at the other end, I'm optimistic about the life I can expect out of them.
As far as number of track days, notice the street miles too. Those were not driving Miss Daisy miles either