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02-03-2017, 02:35 PM
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Of course people can self coach with the squiggly lines. Often faster than video. If we agree that good driving is the best execution of fundamental skills, we can also say that the fundamental skills have a specific pattern and look in the squiggly lines. Then it's just looking at the data for pattern recognition. Just like on the cards that I share with people.
You can't quantify things in a video either. How much coasting did someone do? How fast did they apply the brakes? How long were they at full throttle?
The whole reason we use data is to quantify things, record what actually happened, and be able to use these metrics to improve ourselves. With the squiggly lines, you can put real measures on someone's performance and chart their improvement.
Maybe this is better for it's own thread?
You can't quantify things in a video either. How much coasting did someone do? How fast did they apply the brakes? How long were they at full throttle?
The whole reason we use data is to quantify things, record what actually happened, and be able to use these metrics to improve ourselves. With the squiggly lines, you can put real measures on someone's performance and chart their improvement.
Maybe this is better for it's own thread?
I find it hard to believe that if AIM integrated their video and data that people wouldn't use it.
For me, the biggest advantage is being able to see exactly where I am at on the track when reviewing specific data points. This just seems much more intuitive than trying to translate a spot on the gps map and remember what it looks like while actually driving. In addition, being able to see the visual cues used for braking, turn in and exit backed up by the data showing its effectiveness makes it much easier to remember and apply.
From there, having synchronized video takes it to the next level. Watching the different line taken or smoothness of inputs can make figuring out the difference between a good and a great section quick and easy.
As an entry level club racer, I love my AIM dash and have been very pleased with the real time information it provides. But after spending a fair amount of time learn both Race Studio and Circuit Tools, CT is much easier and quicker to analyze and process what's working and what needs to improve.
For me, the biggest advantage is being able to see exactly where I am at on the track when reviewing specific data points. This just seems much more intuitive than trying to translate a spot on the gps map and remember what it looks like while actually driving. In addition, being able to see the visual cues used for braking, turn in and exit backed up by the data showing its effectiveness makes it much easier to remember and apply.
From there, having synchronized video takes it to the next level. Watching the different line taken or smoothness of inputs can make figuring out the difference between a good and a great section quick and easy.
As an entry level club racer, I love my AIM dash and have been very pleased with the real time information it provides. But after spending a fair amount of time learn both Race Studio and Circuit Tools, CT is much easier and quicker to analyze and process what's working and what needs to improve.
02-03-2017, 03:03 PM
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02-03-2017, 07:19 PM
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Inteally like the AIM squiggly line analytical tools a lot. Just wish to heck they would hurry up with the video integration.
All of that said, in my opinion squiggly lines alone are much much better than HLT.
06-17-2017, 05:21 PM
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The dev team has been using it at both West Coast tracks as well as Palmer and Thompson in the Northeast for Time Trials and Time Attack, so it's definitely suitable for track use. My testing right now is centered around determining how to set up start/finish coordinates to see if lap times can be shown. May not be...
Thank you for your continuous updates in the video/data systems. Could you please let us know about your current feelings towards the Waylens for track use, since you started using it.
06-17-2017, 08:45 PM
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Marc, the latest Waylens firmware update adds lap timing and start/finish coordinates!
I will use them this coming week at David Murry/PCA Club Race at my home track, VIR, and report back.
I will use them this coming week at David Murry/PCA Club Race at my home track, VIR, and report back.
06-19-2017, 03:51 PM
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I've sent a few emails through this website but apparently they have not gone through. can you price out a Racelogic Vbox HD2 system with OLED HD2 camera mounts, cables for cameras and OBD cable and let me know Thanks
I've sent a few emails through this website but apparently they have not gone through. can you price out a Racelogic Vbox HD2 system with OLED HD2 camera mounts, cables for cameras and OBD cable and let me know Thanks
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Didn't see anything from you in my PM's from this site, but let's try again.
Could you please send an email to the address under my profile? I will do the same to yours.
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Nope. but I am all over every email addy I have, plus PM from here, looking for it.
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06-20-2017, 12:44 PM
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Actualy it does look promising as a potential SmartycamHD replacement since aim can't do the real integrated video yet. But I wouldn't want to fiddle with setting it up each time for a new track. I love the systems that know where they are and work automagically. If you could preload start//finish coordinates and it could pick the right one on its own it would be very interesting.