Jalopnik's view of the 997 Turbo
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Jalopnik's view of the 997 Turbo
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After I read this part, I knew the article was doomed.
"The Porsche 997 Turbo, made from 2007-2012, used an engine derived from the Porsche 964 GT1 car, a 3.6-liter, twin turbocharged flat six-cylinder that produced an absolutely epic 470 horsepower and 460 lb-ft of torque.''
"The Porsche 997 Turbo, made from 2007-2012, used an engine derived from the Porsche 964 GT1 car, a 3.6-liter, twin turbocharged flat six-cylinder that produced an absolutely epic 470 horsepower and 460 lb-ft of torque.''
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After I read this part, I knew the article was doomed.
"The Porsche 997 Turbo, made from 2007-2012, used an engine derived from the Porsche 964 GT1 car, a 3.6-liter, twin turbocharged flat six-cylinder that produced an absolutely epic 470 horsepower and 460 lb-ft of torque.''
"The Porsche 997 Turbo, made from 2007-2012, used an engine derived from the Porsche 964 GT1 car, a 3.6-liter, twin turbocharged flat six-cylinder that produced an absolutely epic 470 horsepower and 460 lb-ft of torque.''
"A decent, first year example with low miles will set you back anywhere between $45,000 and $65,000". There are a total of 5 out of the 52 on autotrader in the very top of that range. Nothing even near 45k and certainly not with low miles!
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$45k 997tt :
Maybe a tip, convertible with a salvage title and 80k on the clock.
Maybe a tip, convertible with a salvage title and 80k on the clock.
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The article did link to a sold ebay auction with a $45K 7TT... (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2007-Porsche...p2047675.l2557)
It was a 50K mile example with a minor/moderate accident in it's history and a current minor damage to the front bumper. No salvage title, not a tip, not a cabrio, not super high miles. It was also a zero feedback seller so who knows if the deal actually even went trough.
Sounds like it was an exceptionally good deal on a 'driver' 997 TT, but nothing more than a statistical anomaly, go find another at that price. The seller probably got a ridiculous lowball offer from a dealer and figured if he could sell it for a few grand more he was doing fine.
There was also that previous track car 07 TT on the rennlist classifieds for $55K, but other than those two, ~$65K seems to be the low end price point for a semi-decent first year 7TT with plenty of sellers looking for $75K+
I'm a bit pissed at the Jalopnik article only because now I'm competing with every one of their knucklehead readers in my search! ;-)
It was a 50K mile example with a minor/moderate accident in it's history and a current minor damage to the front bumper. No salvage title, not a tip, not a cabrio, not super high miles. It was also a zero feedback seller so who knows if the deal actually even went trough.
Sounds like it was an exceptionally good deal on a 'driver' 997 TT, but nothing more than a statistical anomaly, go find another at that price. The seller probably got a ridiculous lowball offer from a dealer and figured if he could sell it for a few grand more he was doing fine.
There was also that previous track car 07 TT on the rennlist classifieds for $55K, but other than those two, ~$65K seems to be the low end price point for a semi-decent first year 7TT with plenty of sellers looking for $75K+
I'm a bit pissed at the Jalopnik article only because now I'm competing with every one of their knucklehead readers in my search! ;-)
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Originally Posted by pfbz
The article did link to a sold ebay auction with a $45K 7TT... (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2007-Porsche...p2047675.l2557)
It was a 50K mile example with a minor/moderate accident in it's history and a current minor damage to the front bumper. No salvage title, not a tip, not a cabrio, not super high miles. It was also a zero feedback seller so who knows if the deal actually even went trough.
Sounds like it was an exceptionally good deal on a 'driver' 997 TT, but nothing more than a statistical anomaly, go find another at that price. The seller probably got a ridiculous lowball offer from a dealer and figured if he could sell it for a few grand more he was doing fine.
There was also that previous track car 07 TT on the rennlist classifieds for $55K, but other than those two, ~$65K seems to be the low end price point for a semi-decent first year 7TT with plenty of sellers looking for $75K+
I'm a bit pissed at the Jalopnik article only because now I'm competing with every one of their knucklehead readers in my search! ;-)
It was a 50K mile example with a minor/moderate accident in it's history and a current minor damage to the front bumper. No salvage title, not a tip, not a cabrio, not super high miles. It was also a zero feedback seller so who knows if the deal actually even went trough.
Sounds like it was an exceptionally good deal on a 'driver' 997 TT, but nothing more than a statistical anomaly, go find another at that price. The seller probably got a ridiculous lowball offer from a dealer and figured if he could sell it for a few grand more he was doing fine.
There was also that previous track car 07 TT on the rennlist classifieds for $55K, but other than those two, ~$65K seems to be the low end price point for a semi-decent first year 7TT with plenty of sellers looking for $75K+
I'm a bit pissed at the Jalopnik article only because now I'm competing with every one of their knucklehead readers in my search! ;-)
Once in awhile I see the same low asking price on other sites. For the fun of it, I contact then it goes to the typical scam of stories and family member selling, etc
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Didn't strike me as a scam...
Yes, zero feedback seller, but a direct cell phone number with the right area code, pictures of the vin, pictures of the registration, sellers description and story matches the carfax, etc.
More likely a case of wealthy and/or uninformed owner selling his car for less than it's worth. Doesn't happen often, doesn't set market price, but it does happen.
Yes, zero feedback seller, but a direct cell phone number with the right area code, pictures of the vin, pictures of the registration, sellers description and story matches the carfax, etc.
More likely a case of wealthy and/or uninformed owner selling his car for less than it's worth. Doesn't happen often, doesn't set market price, but it does happen.
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After I read this part, I knew the article was doomed.
"The Porsche 997 Turbo, made from 2007-2012, used an engine derived from the Porsche 964 GT1 car, a 3.6-liter, twin turbocharged flat six-cylinder that produced an absolutely epic 470 horsepower and 460 lb-ft of torque.''
"The Porsche 997 Turbo, made from 2007-2012, used an engine derived from the Porsche 964 GT1 car, a 3.6-liter, twin turbocharged flat six-cylinder that produced an absolutely epic 470 horsepower and 460 lb-ft of torque.''
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Didn't strike me as a scam...
Yes, zero feedback seller, but a direct cell phone number with the right area code, pictures of the vin, pictures of the registration, sellers description and story matches the carfax, etc.
More likely a case of wealthy and/or uninformed owner selling his car for less than it's worth. Doesn't happen often, doesn't set market price, but it does happen.
Yes, zero feedback seller, but a direct cell phone number with the right area code, pictures of the vin, pictures of the registration, sellers description and story matches the carfax, etc.
More likely a case of wealthy and/or uninformed owner selling his car for less than it's worth. Doesn't happen often, doesn't set market price, but it does happen.
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It did seem to photo nicely but that price was most certainly an outlier and shouldn't be used to represent the market.
#14
I saw that auction as well but I'm pretty sure it's a scam. Look at the seller. New account, 0 ratings.
Once in awhile I see the same low asking price on other sites. For the fun of it, I contact then it goes to the typical scam of stories and family member selling, etc
Once in awhile I see the same low asking price on other sites. For the fun of it, I contact then it goes to the typical scam of stories and family member selling, etc
Didn't strike me as a scam...
Yes, zero feedback seller, but a direct cell phone number with the right area code, pictures of the vin, pictures of the registration, sellers description and story matches the carfax, etc.
More likely a case of wealthy and/or uninformed owner selling his car for less than it's worth. Doesn't happen often, doesn't set market price, but it does happen.
Yes, zero feedback seller, but a direct cell phone number with the right area code, pictures of the vin, pictures of the registration, sellers description and story matches the carfax, etc.
More likely a case of wealthy and/or uninformed owner selling his car for less than it's worth. Doesn't happen often, doesn't set market price, but it does happen.
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Ha ha my only issue is that I wish that the article was more accurate and representative of the market.... Anything lower than 60k has some compromises to it. High mileage, accident history, unusual one off seller and the it sells in hours. I am wondering how much more the prices of decent examples will come down. This is especially true because I see that 996 Turbo prices are just barely below 997 Turbo prices. The 997 is almost universally considered the preferable choice so there are going to be many buyers who make the jump from a 50k 996tt to a 60k 997tt. We will see. I am still waiting for this damn recession (that I have thought was coming for a while) to make my next purchase!