To strip or not
04-18-2015, 01:30 PM
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well u me joe are talking the same
it's like sex, u can explain all day.
just let them figure it out
they will go...Ah..... so..... yes.... fk....I should have listened...ah.. I got it now....
but don't get me wrong. IT IS FUN.just expensive
it's like sex, u can explain all day.
just let them figure it out
they will go...Ah..... so..... yes.... fk....I should have listened...ah.. I got it now....
but don't get me wrong. IT IS FUN.just expensive
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If u think u are good at heel toe, try it in a cup...all ur minor mistakes are not tire slip anymore
It is transferred from slicks to the drivetrain and trans
Axles have a short time out, I had one time out at 5 hours( probably defective) .timed out in t1 at Sebring...straight into wall
Bump one into wall...find out what Porsche charges for a replacement bumper on a 996 cup..$7k
There is no street car crash protection...cups just fold up into ball
When I used to track my gt3s i thought the same thing....and I was wrong
My high strung antique with a 25-30 hour engine is over 1/2 the cost of a 996 cup to operate
And we havnt even touched on how sensitive they are to alignment
I still race one...997.2... Just don't own one
If u think u are good at heel toe, try it in a cup...all ur minor mistakes are not tire slip anymore
It is transferred from slicks to the drivetrain and trans
Axles have a short time out, I had one time out at 5 hours( probably defective) .timed out in t1 at Sebring...straight into wall
Bump one into wall...find out what Porsche charges for a replacement bumper on a 996 cup..$7k
There is no street car crash protection...cups just fold up into ball
When I used to track my gt3s i thought the same thing....and I was wrong
My high strung antique with a 25-30 hour engine is over 1/2 the cost of a 996 cup to operate
And we havnt even touched on how sensitive they are to alignment
I still race one...997.2... Just don't own one
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04-18-2015, 02:08 PM
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The real race car should offer better safety features of the full cage as well- which was the other angle at the stripping of my car. I'm not in a position to have two GT3s at the moment (like Mooty's strippers)... but perhaps something without the Porsche heritage and sticker price that still comes with lap times and enhanced safety features.
04-18-2015, 09:03 PM
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The real race car should offer better safety features of the full cage as well- which was the other angle at the stripping of my car. I'm not in a position to have two GT3s at the moment (like Mooty's strippers)... but perhaps something without the Porsche heritage and sticker price that still comes with lap times and enhanced safety features.
04-18-2015, 10:21 PM
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Nice project to do but you will never get back your money back after full strip and cage. Also no chance to drive on the streets. If you got a clean gt3 enjoy for what it is. If u plan on racing I go the cup route. I sold my pristine 1st gen vw gti converted to full race spec and same with my 6gt3- I sold both for pennies on the dollar. Anyway unl
04-19-2015, 01:09 AM
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OP, leave your 2007 for the street. It is too nice to strip and beat on at the track to risk a loss.
You are looking for next level, get a Cayman racer or a dear i say a 996 Cup...
Mooty has a killer 996GT3 track car. You could buy that car, let him kick you in the ***** three times and you would still be better off then buying a 997 Cup....
You are looking for next level, get a Cayman racer or a dear i say a 996 Cup...
Mooty has a killer 996GT3 track car. You could buy that car, let him kick you in the ***** three times and you would still be better off then buying a 997 Cup....
04-19-2015, 01:44 AM
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OP, leave your 2007 for the street. It is too nice to strip and beat on at the track to risk a loss. You are looking for next level, get a Cayman racer or a dear i say a 996 Cup... Mooty has a killer 996GT3 track car. You could buy that car, let him kick you in the ***** three times and you would still be better off then buying a 997 Cup....
Haha- and who doesn't like getting kicked in the ***** from time to time! Yah these GT3s are worth a bit too much to hack up and try to make a want2be Cup out of them. Mine is still quite stock other than the bits mentioned in original post. Will prob leave as is and consider another route for pure track. I want something that can get wadded up without breaking the bank. An $80-90k GT3 is asking for trouble. M3/Cayman-Boxster/Z06 look like decent options to strip/cage with reasonable consumables. After tracking GT3 and 01TT I'd have a hard time getting into a Miata.
04-19-2015, 01:50 AM
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e46m3 is fast and the cheaper than pcars
cayman build out is not as cheap as you would think. the NY pizza car in CFRA. ask him how painful his wallet is. and you dont want to know what i did with mine. cut car is CHEAP compared to my build cost. and i am talking 997.2 cup. boxster is great for PCA racing, you are racing the car not yoru wallet. in norcal it's the best porsche class. Z06 fast (you know margret bought rob m's old z06, i used to battle rob with my 996 GT3 in CFRA) but different.
if you can't do miata, boxster spec is likely too slow too.
should u do want a box spec, i have one for sale too.
you cannot escape satan.
cayman build out is not as cheap as you would think. the NY pizza car in CFRA. ask him how painful his wallet is. and you dont want to know what i did with mine. cut car is CHEAP compared to my build cost. and i am talking 997.2 cup. boxster is great for PCA racing, you are racing the car not yoru wallet. in norcal it's the best porsche class. Z06 fast (you know margret bought rob m's old z06, i used to battle rob with my 996 GT3 in CFRA) but different.
if you can't do miata, boxster spec is likely too slow too.
should u do want a box spec, i have one for sale too.
you cannot escape satan.
04-19-2015, 09:08 AM
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Another car for fun racing is the Factor Five Cobra race cars, competitive, "vintage", fast, good series, not too expensive, much of the car is owner repairable/maintainable. Or you can get a Superformance GT40 and be Dan Gurney & run in the Vintage races. There is an Olthoff Racing race support shop. But from my reading, if a person wants to test himself against other good drivers, the Miata series is tops.
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04-19-2015, 08:50 PM
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This is more fun to me than speed and/or never knowing whether the faster racers are faster because they spend x2 more than you, or because you suck.
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There are a lot of really, really good drivers there making the competition exceptionally fun. And things can get expensive there if you want them to. Top cars done by to shops could command $60k+ brand new, although $30k should bring you pretty close to the top of the field at least in regional races if you know what you're doing.
There are a lot of really, really good drivers there making the competition exceptionally fun. And things can get expensive there if you want them to. Top cars done by to shops could command $60k+ brand new, although $30k should bring you pretty close to the top of the field at least in regional races if you know what you're doing.