2015 Z06 Reviews
02-02-2015, 12:14 PM
#31
And this, right here, is why Porsche needs to stop handy-capping their "little" cars. I get it: value-based pricing means if you spend more, you get more. In Porsche's case more of everything: speed, weight, space, comfort, luxury, traction. The Turbo S is ridiculously capable of doing everything well... Everything except having fun on a tight, curvy back-road, or even dare I say an autocross. Sometime less really is more. My (slower) 912 is 13" narrower than a 918, nearly 15"narrower than a Z06. Which doesn't sound like a lot until you realize it means you've got 50% more space between the centerline and the edge of a normal back-road to play with. And what we need most on the street is exactly that: more street means a bigger playground. This idea that little cars (Cayman) get less of everything means we're deprived of the time-tested recipe for a great sports car: small car, big motor. A 991 Turbo S and Cayenne Turbo S are two of a kind: both hugely impressive, hugely capable cars that I can't properly enjoy where I live and like to drive. I'll gladly pay whatever's asked for a small, light, playful little monster, a 4/5 scale RS 4.0 with the power and poise to get frisky in that extra lane width. What I won't pay for is another big car: this chase for more of everything might work on the Autobahn and keep 'Ring records tumbling, but in my world it's no fun when the cars get bigger but the roads don't.
Did you say you have a deposit down for GT4? 😉😉
02-02-2015, 02:34 PM
#32
02-02-2015, 03:25 PM
#33
Rennlist Member
02-02-2015, 03:37 PM
#34
See my post above. The current hierarchy favors GT cars and even SUVs over lightweight sports cars, penalizing one while promoting the other. That should change. It wasn't always like this- go back to the 80s and 911s, 951s and 928s existed beside each-other, the 928 didn't emasculate and dominate the other two.
When someone cracks that ECU you'll see it change in a hurry...
When someone cracks that ECU you'll see it change in a hurry...
05-22-2015, 04:18 AM
#35
And all the reviews have glossed over the fact the pig overheats on the track.
I had overheating in a Z51 car in Phoenix at the track. Enough for me to reaffirm my knowledge that GM will always cheap out on something.
I had overheating in a Z51 car in Phoenix at the track. Enough for me to reaffirm my knowledge that GM will always cheap out on something.
05-22-2015, 04:45 AM
#36
Rennlist Member
05-22-2015, 04:52 AM
#37
Addict
Rennlist Member
Rennlist
Site Sponsor
Rennlist Member
Rennlist
Site Sponsor
05-22-2015, 09:14 AM
#39
Addict
Rennlist Member
Rennlist
Site Sponsor
Rennlist Member
Rennlist
Site Sponsor
05-22-2015, 09:22 AM
#40
Pro
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Rock Hill, SC, just south of Charlotte, NC
Posts: 705
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes
on
4 Posts
Fat cars just don't fit well on many European roads. Back in '69, I took a new Dodge Charger R/T, with the 440ci motor to southern Germany, as a newly minted 2nd LT, with the 3d Infantry Division. Spent a year there before I was posted to Vietnam via Ft. Bragg, NC. My first wife, who later ran off with a lawyer when I was in the Mekong delta, and I drove from Schweinfurt down to Rotenberg a Tauber, a historic old walled city for a visit. There is a famous, very photographic street in the city where a road divides, one going down to a lower city gate, the other to a higher gate.
So I carefully drove that big Dodge down the lower road, but when I got to the lower city gate, it being made for ox carts, my car could not get thru it. So I had to back carefully all the way back up the slope and manage a turn to get out of the city.
This last fall, my wife and I visited Rotenberg, and I walked down to that same wall where 45 years ago my big American car was just too wide to pass. It was a bit nostalgic for me.
I when I see 'Vettes out on the road, all I see is a really really wide sports car. Too much so for me.
Extraordinary acceleration can only by enjoyed for occasional seconds, while svelte handling can by enjoyed every moment a driver has his hands on the steering wheel.
All the best....
So I carefully drove that big Dodge down the lower road, but when I got to the lower city gate, it being made for ox carts, my car could not get thru it. So I had to back carefully all the way back up the slope and manage a turn to get out of the city.
This last fall, my wife and I visited Rotenberg, and I walked down to that same wall where 45 years ago my big American car was just too wide to pass. It was a bit nostalgic for me.
I when I see 'Vettes out on the road, all I see is a really really wide sports car. Too much so for me.
Extraordinary acceleration can only by enjoyed for occasional seconds, while svelte handling can by enjoyed every moment a driver has his hands on the steering wheel.
All the best....
05-22-2015, 04:10 PM
#41
^^ Great story 
I can't imagine a late 60's Dodge Charger in Europe. I suspect it drew a bit of attention! LOL
I can't imagine a late 60's Dodge Charger in Europe. I suspect it drew a bit of attention! LOL
05-22-2015, 04:30 PM
#42
Three Wheelin'
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,291
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Horses for courses.
Z06 is a hell of a car. Current Corvettes are incredible.
Corvette was never small. Even when it was smaller, other cars were smaller as well.
I'd buy a Z06 if I were in the market. I just wouldn't take it to an A/X. Then again, I hate A/X so that's a match made in heaven, no?
Z06 is a hell of a car. Current Corvettes are incredible.
Corvette was never small. Even when it was smaller, other cars were smaller as well.
I'd buy a Z06 if I were in the market. I just wouldn't take it to an A/X. Then again, I hate A/X so that's a match made in heaven, no?
05-22-2015, 09:28 PM
#43
8th Gear
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
This is my first post....I have been a lurker for a while, I finally picked up one of my dream cars,,, 2008 GT3 RS and now feel I can contribute. I have learned a lot about the 997 from you guys. I have had a number of P cars, mostly 930's with a built 77 3.0 Turbo in the garage now to go with my RS.
I never liked the Vettes, even the ZR1, interior build quality really bothered me. My good friend has a new Z06 and this car has changed my opinion of the vette. Build quality is vastly superior to past vettes, interior is pretty damn nice now, not an Audi, but close to most high end European makes. It makes me feel good that an American company can match the best of Eurpoe on the track. There are only a very few cars that can best it on a track, that speaks volumes.
Jimmy
I never liked the Vettes, even the ZR1, interior build quality really bothered me. My good friend has a new Z06 and this car has changed my opinion of the vette. Build quality is vastly superior to past vettes, interior is pretty damn nice now, not an Audi, but close to most high end European makes. It makes me feel good that an American company can match the best of Eurpoe on the track. There are only a very few cars that can best it on a track, that speaks volumes.
Jimmy
