Centerlocks - I'm out! ....Hello 5-lug conversion!
06-25-2012, 08:50 PM
#106
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Looking at the offering from Suncoast - http://www.suncoastparts.com/product//PK5LUGC.html "GT3 Center Lock Removal Kit" are the parts the same between the GT3 and GT3RS, who makes the hubs are they Porsche parts or sourced from another supplier. Seems to me that one could be opening themselves up to even more problems with substandard parts - I'm not saying that Suncoast would offer such, but the questions still come to mind.
Has anyone with a 7.2RS done this conversion that tracks their car on a regular basis. Aside from the obvious advantages, how was the conversion overall, any issues.
Has anyone with a 7.2RS done this conversion that tracks their car on a regular basis. Aside from the obvious advantages, how was the conversion overall, any issues.
I have done 15+ track events since doing the conversion with zero issues, including 6 days at Miller Motorsport Park- that is one fast and spectacular track.
Cheers!
Doug N.
Last edited by DJN; 06-26-2012 at 09:17 PM.
06-26-2012, 09:10 PM
#108
Addict
Rennlist Member
Rennlist Member
I like the idea of shipping the CL hardware back to Porsche AG with a rejection letter, and documentation on the reasons for upgrading to 5-lugs for the people that have safety vision and upgrades to 5-lugs.
I don't see the value of carrying the liability of re-selling used CL hardware in the used market, so it is dead weight. Better to ship it to the manufacturer, once Porsche AG get 10 of the same packages, they might start an internal conversation. This plus calls to PCNA, plus letters to PCNA, add coolant fitting failures, worn-out diffs, void warranties for Hoosier tires, void warranties for aftermarket parts, void warranties for running a DE/AutoX/track days, failing clutches, cracked mufflers, all these as part of your loyal support efforts to the brand.
Do nothing, and nothing will change.
I don't see the value of carrying the liability of re-selling used CL hardware in the used market, so it is dead weight. Better to ship it to the manufacturer, once Porsche AG get 10 of the same packages, they might start an internal conversation. This plus calls to PCNA, plus letters to PCNA, add coolant fitting failures, worn-out diffs, void warranties for Hoosier tires, void warranties for aftermarket parts, void warranties for running a DE/AutoX/track days, failing clutches, cracked mufflers, all these as part of your loyal support efforts to the brand.
Do nothing, and nothing will change.
06-26-2012, 09:48 PM
#110
Nordschleife Master
Rad, the picture of McQueen's salute on the other thread says it all.
Times have changed, the old guard is gone, It's no longer only about passion, it's about the all mighty $$: succeed or die. Not commenting, just stating the facts.
Times have changed, the old guard is gone, It's no longer only about passion, it's about the all mighty $$: succeed or die. Not commenting, just stating the facts.
06-26-2012, 09:57 PM
#111
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
OK NJ-GT, great idea! I'll be first to step up and donate my CL hardware for this serious cause. They are already in a box ready to ship......
Let's get nine more Rennlist members to convert (or remove them from their broken car) and I will help coordinate to ship them back to Porsche at the same time. This should get their attention.
Anyone one have a connection to get the most appropriate shipping address?
The Rennlist Centerlock Throw-Back Movement (RCTM):
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Let's get nine more Rennlist members to convert (or remove them from their broken car) and I will help coordinate to ship them back to Porsche at the same time. This should get their attention.
Anyone one have a connection to get the most appropriate shipping address?
The Rennlist Centerlock Throw-Back Movement (RCTM):
#1. DJN - Doug N.
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06-26-2012, 10:31 PM
#113
Race Director
Do the center lock rotors work on the 5 lug hubs?
I have different brakes than gt3 I have 996 Turbo brakes....997 Carrera S brakes....my so called center lock rotors look like the 5 lug rotors visually speaking...but...not sure if something might be a few mm's different.
I have different brakes than gt3 I have 996 Turbo brakes....997 Carrera S brakes....my so called center lock rotors look like the 5 lug rotors visually speaking...but...not sure if something might be a few mm's different.
06-26-2012, 11:11 PM
#114
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
It should work fine regardless of your combo. The places where the 5 red dummy lugs fit is where the lugs/bolts or studs go through. Note that in your case you will only have to order the 5 lug hubs and bearings for the GTS or Carrera S/996 Turbo for your specific case.
Cheers!
Doug N.
06-26-2012, 11:36 PM
#115
Rennlist Member
It's going to probably take 100 cars with wheels that fell off and carnage thereafter parked in front of headquarters. You could send cl locks here and there but they still making money off of you by converting to 5lug. We already have issues with coolant fittings which IMO is a worse scenario for trackies and they don't even glance at that. Mike
06-26-2012, 11:43 PM
#116
Nordschleife Master
Hole size is different
Turbo center lock takes different rear rotor than non cl
06-27-2012, 02:27 AM
#117
Race Director
I'd like to at least put on Giro Disc front rotors since they are slightly bigger, slotted and probably last longer...problem is Giro Disc doesn't make a Center Lock type of rotor for my car....and I've asked them to...but nope.
06-27-2012, 04:55 AM
#118
Rennlist Member
With the PFC set ups, the non CL lug holes are 16.7mm diameter and the CL drive pin holes are 15.7mm so there is a slight difference... Non CL won't work on CL as the drive bobbins don't fit firmly on the hats but the reverse may be fine as long as the lug threads clear the rotor hat holes...
06-27-2012, 09:37 AM
#119
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
With the PFC set ups, the non CL lug holes are 16.7mm diameter and the CL drive pin holes are 15.7mm so there is a slight difference... Non CL won't work on CL as the drive bobbins don't fit firmly on the hats but the reverse may be fine as long as the lug threads clear the rotor hat holes...
Also, note that CL to 5 lug conversions have NOTHING to do with the brakes on GT2/3/RS. Mike PM me to discuss your specific GTS case.
Cheers!
Doug N
06-27-2012, 09:56 AM
#120
Nordschleife Master
With the PFC set ups, the non CL lug holes are 16.7mm diameter and the CL drive pin holes are 15.7mm so there is a slight difference... Non CL won't work on CL as the drive bobbins don't fit firmly on the hats but the reverse may be fine as long as the lug threads clear the rotor hat holes...