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Old 06-17-2009, 06:57 PM
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I've fitted the GT2 rear ARB (sway bar?). It is stiffer than the GT3's one so should help reduce understeer. Not tried it out properly yet, but a first visit to Spa in 10 days should give the car a proper workout
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I included labor and just made myself sick. Don't tell my wife I spent like 20k on my suspension[/QUOTE]
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I included labor and just made myself sick. Don't tell my wife I spent like 20k on my suspension
Funny![/QUOTE]


parts n labour...... im spending $1000.00 bills like they are $10.00 bills...... it is only numbers on paper at this point....

200k is creeping up slowly.... but faster then i had expected....

motorsport is a hellva drug!
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I agree with Pete, but would add the rear toe links. I can give you alignment settings.

PS I'll take shaved RA-1s any day of the week over the 888's
Victor transformed my car with his alignment help.. I have just about everything he mentioned upgrade wise, including the motons but just couldn't get it setup properly, it was a MESS for well over a year... After his setup, bang, first try night and day, can't thank you enough bud
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@ mental dental :

I had the GT2 ARB before I replaced the OEM Bilsteins and it was indeed an improvement. Now that I have the stiffer KWs, the GT2 ARB was too much and I have reverted to the OEM ARB.

Tom
Old 06-18-2009, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by maximu5
@ mental dental :

I had the GT2 ARB before I replaced the OEM Bilsteins and it was indeed an improvement. Now that I have the stiffer KWs, the GT2 ARB was too much and I have reverted to the OEM ARB.

Tom
You have to disable PASM with KW right?
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Originally Posted by maximu5
@ mental dental :

I had the GT2 ARB before I replaced the OEM Bilsteins and it was indeed an improvement. Now that I have the stiffer KWs, the GT2 ARB was too much and I have reverted to the OEM ARB.

Tom
Is your setup now just 1 setting? How is the ride on street compared to the old Normal or Sport setting?
Also could you comment on the change when on the track.
Thanks
Rick
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I'm with Mooty on this one. If you want to ace the vette you can spend a fortune or:

Get a proper track alignment;
Replace the rear sway bar with the one from the 997 GT2
Lose the Cups and get Pirelli slicks (they fit your 19 inch wheels)
Use Pagid RS 19 or 29 brake pads.

You will out corner a Z06 and absolutely kill it under braking.

On the straights, he will outpower you, his car is lighter and has way more power.

On the other hand you'll have spent about $2,500 to make his life really miserable.
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Originally Posted by Bob Rouleau
I'm with Mooty on this one. If you want to ace the vette you can spend a fortune or:

Get a proper track alignment;
Replace the rear sway bar with the one from the 997 GT2
Lose the Cups and get Pirelli slicks (they fit your 19 inch wheels)
Use Pagid RS 19 or 29 brake pads.

You will out corner a Z06 and absolutely kill it under braking.

On the straights, he will outpower you, his car is lighter and has way more power.

On the other hand you'll have spent about $2,500 to make his life really miserable.
WORTH EVERY PENNY THEN! maybe we should take a collection!

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Originally Posted by mental dental
I've fitted the GT2 rear ARB (sway bar?). It is stiffer than the GT3's one so should help reduce understeer. Not tried it out properly yet, but a first visit to Spa in 10 days should give the car a proper workout
well worth it, but be careful with the settings ... full stiff is a handfull IMHO

be careful in Eau Rouge!

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Originally Posted by Bob Rouleau
I'm with Mooty on this one. If you want to ace the vette you can spend a fortune or:

Get a proper track alignment;
Replace the rear sway bar with the one from the 997 GT2
Lose the Cups and get Pirelli slicks (they fit your 19 inch wheels)
Use Pagid RS 19 or 29 brake pads.

You will out corner a Z06 and absolutely kill it under braking.

On the straights, he will outpower you, his car is lighter and has way more power.

On the other hand you'll have spent about $2,500 to make his life really miserable.
Thanks for all of the feedback!
$2500 is well worth it!
I do have a track alignment.
Slicks are a problem because I drive to the track.
The pads are a problem because I have PCCB's
I'm using the OEM pads. Very hard braking is not as good as I would like.
It's hard to go as deep as I want to with the stock PCCB set up.
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Understand the problem of driving to the track. You should run the PCCB race pads, stock street pads are not recommended for track, your manual probably says this. The PCCB track pads are the P 50 compound I believe.

Too bad you can't run the slicks, that's the cheapest 4 second a lap improvement you can buy. Are you running the 19 inch Cups? If so switch to the Pirelli Corsa (note note the Corsa System OEM tire, the real R compound version) which is available in 19 inches and fits our cars. Way better than the street cups and safe to drive on the street.

Best,
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Originally Posted by rickg87
Thanks for all of the feedback!
$2500 is well worth it!
I do have a track alignment.
Slicks are a problem because I drive to the track.
The pads are a problem because I have PCCB's
I'm using the OEM pads. Very hard braking is not as good as I would like.
It's hard to go as deep as I want to with the stock PCCB set up.
Budget track build up:

1. Pirellis
2. GT2 or GMG rear sway bar
3. TRG toe links
4. Pads

(reccommend you convert to iron rotors that fit the PCCB calipers and put what is left of your PCCB rotors in boxes for resale)
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sorry for late reply, yes PASM is disabled with KWs

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Originally Posted by rickg87
Is your setup now just 1 setting? How is the ride on street compared to the old Normal or Sport setting?
Also could you comment on the change when on the track.
Thanks
Rick
@ Rickg87

the KWs are adjustable. I had Sean Edwards test the car at Spa and with his recommendations it is a pleasure to drive on the track: much more predictable. I am too much of an amateur to set up the car myself, but the difference is marked on the track. ON the road the car is somewhat stiffer, but still manageable (certainly compared to my 996 GT3). Anyway, I have the KWs with hydraulic lift : I need these to get into my underground garage. So I had no choice but to drop the OEM shocks.


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