What stops you all from upgrading to the 991 and beyond?
02-25-2017, 09:47 PM
#46
I'll pick up a 991 eventually, but no rush. I've had my 2005 C2 for 4 1/2 years now and I still enjoy it. No sense in getting a CPO 991 at $80k when it will be $50k-$55k in a few more years.
02-25-2017, 11:10 PM
#47
Race Car
02-25-2017, 11:23 PM
#49
Rennlist Member
So true. In a blind driving test I bet 95% of people couldn't tell the difference between the 2 (except the faster 991 would probably give it away) regardless of how they claim that they absolutely 100% could tell the diff between the hydraulic and electric steering 
If you want analogue, raw and visceral (whatever that means) then buy an dirt bike. But that's not a 997
If you want analogue, raw and visceral (whatever that means) then buy an dirt bike. But that's not a 997
I love it when the judge and jury come out.
It's all relative, and compared to 95% of cars on the road, a 997 is absolutely raw and visceral, ( I think you know what that means) as is my 2000 Kawasaki ZRX 1100.
02-25-2017, 11:37 PM
#50
I hate the location of the shifter on the 911 and I don't want PDK. The massive center console of the 991 seems to get in my way. I can lay my forearm flat on the 997 console and shift using just my wrist. On the 991 its at that weird angle and elevated.
02-25-2017, 11:40 PM
#51
Drifting
This quote: "The 991 and beyond is an exceptional performance car that offers a high degree of luxury - it is not the **** and vinegar niche sports car that will bite you if you don't know how to handle it for Porsche devotees. I can only speak for myself but I will forgo the 991 and anything that comes after it because I prefer the lack amenties, ideosyncratic, underpowered (if you can call 410 hp underpowered), and sometimes uncomfortable 997.2."
Makes no sense to me. There is nothing particularly raw about a 997. Its a very comfortable car. Its not going to bite you any harder than a 991 - its got so may nannies its pretty hard to do unless you really want to
I have made my ruling, court adjourned
02-26-2017, 12:31 AM
#52
Rennlist Member
Well maybe compared to 95% of the cars on the road but not compared to a 991.
This quote: "The 991 and beyond is an exceptional performance car that offers a high degree of luxury - it is not the **** and vinegar niche sports car that will bite you if you don't know how to handle it for Porsche devotees. I can only speak for myself but I will forgo the 991 and anything that comes after it because I prefer the lack amenties, ideosyncratic, underpowered (if you can call 410 hp underpowered), and sometimes uncomfortable 997.2."
Makes no sense to me. There is nothing particularly raw about a 997. Its a very comfortable car. Its not going to bite you any harder than a 991 - its got so may nannies its pretty hard to do unless you really want to
I have made my ruling, court adjourned
This quote: "The 991 and beyond is an exceptional performance car that offers a high degree of luxury - it is not the **** and vinegar niche sports car that will bite you if you don't know how to handle it for Porsche devotees. I can only speak for myself but I will forgo the 991 and anything that comes after it because I prefer the lack amenties, ideosyncratic, underpowered (if you can call 410 hp underpowered), and sometimes uncomfortable 997.2."
Makes no sense to me. There is nothing particularly raw about a 997. Its a very comfortable car. Its not going to bite you any harder than a 991 - its got so may nannies its pretty hard to do unless you really want to
I have made my ruling, court adjourned
02-26-2017, 02:04 AM
#53
Rennlist Member
I got to drive a 991.1 and 991.2 back to back a few weeks ago, and of those two , preferred the .1 car. The .2 car was 'better' in some respects and had more power, but the .1 sounded better and had more drama.
The steering was better on the .2 however.
When I drove the 997 for the first time, I got a sense of 'I have to have this car'. I never got that with any 991 variant. It is a nicer place to be, but I find the 997 more flawed and more engaging. I have come to accept the 991 is not really any larger than the 997, it's more the optics but the 997 just 'feels' right.
When the time comes to hopefully buy another, I'll be looking for a 997 GTS or GT3.
The steering was better on the .2 however.
When I drove the 997 for the first time, I got a sense of 'I have to have this car'. I never got that with any 991 variant. It is a nicer place to be, but I find the 997 more flawed and more engaging. I have come to accept the 991 is not really any larger than the 997, it's more the optics but the 997 just 'feels' right.
When the time comes to hopefully buy another, I'll be looking for a 997 GTS or GT3.
02-26-2017, 04:02 AM
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02-26-2017, 05:24 AM
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Hey guys,
I'm loving my 997. I really am. But every time a new porsche comes out, I can't stop thinking about it. How are you guys able to hold back from always wanting to upgrade your 997? I know it's mostly psychological, but...would love to hear your opinions on this!
Mike.
I'm loving my 997. I really am. But every time a new porsche comes out, I can't stop thinking about it. How are you guys able to hold back from always wanting to upgrade your 997? I know it's mostly psychological, but...would love to hear your opinions on this!
Mike.
YEAR: 2017
MAKE: Porsche
MODEL: 911
TRIM: Turbo Coupe
TRANSMISSION: Automatic
BODY STYLE: Coupe
SEATS: 4
DRIVETRAIN: All Wheel Drive
MILES PER YEAR: 10,000
PAYMENT: $1,819
DUE AT SIGNING: $13,408
REBATE: $0
02-26-2017, 09:06 AM
#58
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This is what we called the addiction to drive new cars. My own addiction is to get and drive the 2017 Porsche 911 Turbo Coupe. Craving this deal here,
YEAR: 2017
MAKE: Porsche
MODEL: 911
TRIM: Turbo Coupe
TRANSMISSION: Automatic
BODY STYLE: Coupe
SEATS: 4
DRIVETRAIN: All Wheel Drive
MILES PER YEAR: 10,000
PAYMENT: $1,819
DUE AT SIGNING: $13,408
REBATE: $0
YEAR: 2017
MAKE: Porsche
MODEL: 911
TRIM: Turbo Coupe
TRANSMISSION: Automatic
BODY STYLE: Coupe
SEATS: 4
DRIVETRAIN: All Wheel Drive
MILES PER YEAR: 10,000
PAYMENT: $1,819
DUE AT SIGNING: $13,408
REBATE: $0
So you going to blow 78k in a 3 year lease and have nothing to show for it. Why not wait 3 yrs, buy it for 65 k and enjoy it the rest of your life.
02-26-2017, 09:21 AM
#59
You see this with a lot of enthusiast cars. When the price drops down to a certain level you start seeing all the DIY threads on the forums. The cheaper the car, the more DIY projects start to pop up. Sure, there will be some for the 991 but what will the crossover be?
For a lot of folks the attraction isn't just the driving experience and/or motorsports history (which I think is important for Porsche), but getting your hands dirty! I love spending time working on the car, whether a simple oil change or even bigger projects.
When Porsche sports cars are all electric (and that day is coming) will the hood be sealed at the factory with only the dealers allowed access? Count me out.
02-26-2017, 09:31 AM
#60
Platinum997, don't bite the hand that feeds you.
Personally, I'm grateful for the cardiologist at Cedars-Sinai who leased my 2010 C4S for two years that stickered for 135k and made it possible for me to buy it in 2012 with 10,000 miles on it for 70k.
And btw, just drove a 2017 GT3RS at PSDS In Birmingham and the only thing stopping me from buying one is that I don't have $250k laying around.
Personally, I'm grateful for the cardiologist at Cedars-Sinai who leased my 2010 C4S for two years that stickered for 135k and made it possible for me to buy it in 2012 with 10,000 miles on it for 70k.
And btw, just drove a 2017 GT3RS at PSDS In Birmingham and the only thing stopping me from buying one is that I don't have $250k laying around.