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AutobahnMac911

Love the 991.1 and .2. Have had plenty of time in both including renting a 997.2 in Zurich and thrashing it through the passes in the Alps last year. Have had both a 991.1 a 991.2 as loaners for several days as well. Amazing cars, good in their own right, but different than the 997. The 991's are technically "better" in every way, especially the new turbo versions which have significantly more thrust, but ironically it is the imperfection that draws me to the 997.

The power of the new 991 is significantly better, but less linear. Same goes for the steering, while awesome in its own right, I like the feedback my 997 gives. All depends on how I use the car - as a day to day driver, I prefer the 991, as a track car, I prefer the 997.

Clinton Ave

As someone in their first Porsche, money is THE reason I looked at, and got what I did.

JWYR

My 997 still puts a smile on my face every time I drive it. I just do not feel the need to move to something different. I do think the 991 has some major advantages, so it is not about what is best. It is about realizing how lucky I am for having a 997.

Hella-Buggin'

There's a guy in my local PCA that's in his 80's. We both have the same number car.
#72. He asked me why I have #72 and I explained it was the year I was born. He told me to go **** myself. I asked him why was his #72, he said it was the year he bought it new. Now this guy isn't the fastest on the track but he wrangles that 44 year old car like nobody's business. To me, sorting the car over and myself over the years to learn to eek everything she's got is more appealing than Bluetooth.

Ive driven a few 991's and they were nice but when I got back in my 997 it just felt right. Maybe I'll change my mind some day but for the foreseeable future, I'll just keep driving the wheels off of my car.

Type_LT

Did not want direct injection in a car where accessing the intake valves means dropping the engine (because I would want to clean them all the time )

Don't get me wrong, DI is good stuff that yields more power and efficiency but I wish they'd put a couple port injectors in there to enable "screw the planet I want to clean my intake valves" mode once in awhile.

I've opened up enough VW/Audi direct injected engines to see what is known as the "carbon devil" living on the intake valves. After scraping that crap off of my A4's 2.0T twice I don't want another car with that problem.

Rikky001

I am Porschist since 1992, owned almost every model and a very loyal Porsche customer Now, that all changed not too long ago as I can't find myself in the current VW philosophy. Love the Boxster, Cayenne, Panamera and the Macan but for me there are just too many Platinums, Black Editions, GTS's, etc that I lost track of what I want to buy next.
The 991.2 drives faster and is "better" in technical aspect but when I was a kid I dreamed about Porsches when I saw the first one and worked hard to own my first Porsche in 1992; it was all about "feeling" and "emotions"... For me, the "emotions" seem to be gone as the 991 drives faster but is so sterile and everybody can drive fast in it. I understand it will get worse as electric cars are pushed as being the future. So long I keep my 997 and invest in a few more classics, 356, 3.2 Carrera and 993.

mike.baa

Thanks for the input so far guys. I'm not sure what's missing other than the fact that things are newer. Extra speed is meh because I don't track and I can't expose everything my current car can give anyways. Maybe it's the improved platform.....pdk even? It's something I'm having a hard time figuring out why I always feel the need to get something better.

Mumbles

I will not spend $ 100k to upgrade my 28km 997.2 for a new 991.2 so I can drive it 2k per year.

Bruce In Philly

Interesting.... I am not aware of a single instance where a Porsche DFI developed this carbon buildup. Can you point us to where you know of this?

I have 106K miles on my 2009 DFI.... no issues that I am aware of at all.

Peace
Bruce in Philly

GTS Sully

The 991's are not 911's. There, I said it.

SpeedyD

Easy, the 997.2 is the more exciting, better looking car.

I don't car about having the "new thing" just the "better thing" for the job. The job is driving enjoyment and having something beautiful to look at when walking into my garage.

997.2 is the better driver, and the obvious point is the steering. Hydraulic is superior to electric in every sense except fuel economy. Porsche needed the 1% improvement but I don't. So i prefer the superior feel of hydraulic steering and yes I can absolutely tell the difference vs the 991s I have driven -- though the gt3s i have tried are ridiculously close. I admit not having tried a 991.2 yet, so I guess that is open...

For the 991.2s... I dont like the look and don't want turbos in a non-turbo porsche. You can buy a 997.2 turbo porsche that will whip the 991.2 in acceleration, and you will be in the better (upgraded) car by getting the older true turbo.

All that said, I am almost convinced to get a new GT3. Also toying around with a 997 version. So that may either pull me out of my car or I will just have both.

So, nothing stops me from getting a 991 other than preferences.

Dennis C

I upgraded to a 991, and I love it. It's an awesome car. Don't get me wrong; I loved my 997 too, but the 991 is a great upgrade. I'm happy that I made the choice to go with the 991. Much of the stuff that people want to change on the 997 is already present on the 991. It already has more power, LED lights, iPhone connectivity and bluetooth, 20" wheels, etc.

There's another opinion for ya'!

The Ox

HA, glad I could help you in your pool. I was a long time BMW owner, plenty of 3 series over the years. Loved them, perfect size and performance for me. When I traded the 2011 for the 2013 I almost committed harikari for my sins. The difference was monumental, electric steering, soft suspension, a disconnected car. I couldn't believe it had a BMW badge on it. Yes I test drove it, auto vs the manual I leased, I was admittedly seduced by the shiny new siren singing in the showroom. When shifting the manual car the nose would literally bob up and down. I eventually put a set of Dinan springs, bump stops, and a suspension download which really helped. But I was scarred. 2011 analogue, 2013 digital. So when I started my 911 search I was hell bent on getting back into a connected, as you said, and I have been saying, visceral machine. The 2012 and 2013 991s I drove were very nice cars, but compared to the 2009 I eventually bought (C2S with 23K miles) it was no comparison. I fell in love with the 997. I didn't have that connection/experience with the 991. A good friend recently traded his 2005 997 for a 2017 C2, PDK. I drove it, it is very fast, comfortable, the steering is much better than the 991.1, but, still not an analogue machine.

Like my buddy John Entwistle, I prefer his earlier stuff/tone with The Who (Who By Number, Tommy, Who's Next, Quadrophenia), when he was playing a passive Fender Precision bass to his later stuff, especially live when he had switched to active Alembic and Warwick basses (The Buzzard). The active basses electronically boost the signal. The passive P-Bass has, for me, that perfect passive tone. He used to push that thing into wonderful, overdrive distortion and back to the non distorted, fat plate of meatballs tone. For me, newer tech isn't always better. So as a bass player I prefer my old, passive Fender Precision and Jazz basses, as driver, I prefer my older, passive, analogue 911...

Blaine 997

I agree, but with more $$$$$$$$!

Besides that, I think the 991's are too large for my tastes. I'm a big guy, and a 997 is the smallest 911 I can fit comfortably in.