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Old 12-16-2015, 01:19 AM
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Default 997 Gauge Cluster Change & Mileage

I'm thinkng about changing my white faced S gauge cluster with a black faced once since the white doesn't go with anything else in the car. Is the vehicle mileage stored within the cluster or stored in the DME and reported through the cluster, as I don't want to do anything that would change the accuracy of the vehicle mileage since it's a pretty low-mileage car at 45k over 10 years.

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The mileage is in the DME, not the cluster. I had to swap mine shortly after buying it because the small lcd display was working intermittently...it was a straight swap and the mileage remained the same. Having said that, how about just changing the dial faces? It should be less expensive.
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I think the white works well and would leave it as is.
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Originally Posted by SJP3003
The mileage is in the DME, not the cluster. I had to swap mine shortly after buying it because the small lcd display was working intermittently...it was a straight swap and the mileage remained the same. Having said that, how about just changing the dial faces? It should be less expensive.
Thanks for the info. I actually bought a black gauge face spare cluster at a good price that I'm going to swap in. The purpose was that I'm going to send my original one off to RUF to have RUF gauges installed. If the mileage won't be affected, I'll likely just send them the black spare one I have for the upgrade and save a step.
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Sounds like that car needs more seat time!
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Originally Posted by Wayne Smith
Sounds like that car needs more seat time!
Probably so, but it's so great I'm trying to balance seat time with it lasting for 30 years, plus I only have 1 seat and 3 of them to share the love with, so it and the 928 get about 3,500-4,000 per year; the 914 a good bit less, probably 1,000-1,500 and they all go out in only good weather with the Infiniti and Pick-up doing most of the trips and bad weather duty.
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Originally Posted by street rod
I think the white works well and would leave it as is.
Me too....love the white.
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I also vote for white.
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Gotta have some contrast in there. Save yourself the hassle and $ and just stick with white! Looks great IMHO.
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10k miles a year is a good round number to me ...

I also second the contrasting white gauges. I have a base C2, so I have black faces on my cluster, and I think it looks too dark.

If I could get Arctic Silver gauge faces, that would be ideal.
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Originally Posted by Petza914
Probably so, but it's so great I'm trying to balance seat time with it lasting for 30 years, plus I only have 1 seat and 3 of them to share the love with, so it and the 928 get about 3,500-4,000 per year; the 914 a good bit less, probably 1,000-1,500 and they all go out in only good weather with the Infiniti and Pick-up doing most of the trips and bad weather duty.
A delicate balance. I drove the pickup the last two weeks as I waited for new rear PSSs. I found it painful! So good to get into the 997 each morning again . So nice to leave the pickup behind as I leave the driveway!
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I really like the silver gauges I had in my 2004 996.2 and the silver gauges that are on my current 2010 997.2. You get three different gauge colors depending on the time of day:
  • Daytime: Silver gauges
  • Dusk/Dawn: Gray gauges
  • Night time: Black gauges
With Black gauges you get black gauges all the time.
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Originally Posted by SJP3003
The mileage is in the DME, not the cluster. I had to swap mine shortly after buying it because the small lcd display was working intermittently...it was a straight swap and the mileage remained the same. Having said that, how about just changing the dial faces? It should be less expensive.
Do you have a 997.2? Was the replacement cluster new? My experience with a used 997.1 is different. The mileage changed when the cluster was swapped.

I thought I read somewhere that a sub 100 mile replacement custer will refresh from the DME, but any cluster with more than 100 miles will not. This is a security feature to prevent mileage tampering. The replacement cluster will keep its miles from the donor car. But there are overseas sites that adjust milege for salvage cars and rebuilt engines by shipping them your cluster. They are useful for resetting a used cluster to match your original one. Way cheaper than buying a new one.

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Pete, FWIW I went with changing the face gauges... http://www.fvd.us/us/en/Porsche-0/92...t__Manual.html

Still need to find the time to install them... maybe over the xmas holiday.
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Originally Posted by semicycler
Do you have a 997.2? Was the replacement cluster new? My experience with a used 997.1 is different. The mileage changed when the cluster was swapped.

I thought I read somewhere that a sub 100 mile replacement custer will refresh from the DME, but any cluster with more than 100 miles will not. This is a security feature to prevent mileage tampering. The replacement cluster will keep its miles from the donor car. But there are overseas sites that adjust milege for salvage cars and rebuilt engines by shipping them your cluster. They are useful for resetting a used cluster to match your original one. Way cheaper than buying a new one.
Thanks for the info. Mine is an '05 997.1. Your comment is why I was planning to install this 2nd cluster I have only temporarily while shipping mine off to RUF so my mileage would still be accurate once my original cluster came back - I gues it could be off by 500 miles or so if that's what I put on the car during the couple months my original one was being worked on.
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