FYI on costs for a PDK clutch oil change
#61
Wayne, no need to be cynical. I'm not sure why you've found my correction offending. Anyway - this wan't an intention of it.
Storm, thanks for the detailed clarification. So that removing pan doesn't do anything to the oil in the transmission compartment?
Looking at the Wayne's picture of pan removed it's quite amazing that this whole big part with all those solenoids is just the clutches/dif part of the gear...
Storm, thanks for the detailed clarification. So that removing pan doesn't do anything to the oil in the transmission compartment?
Looking at the Wayne's picture of pan removed it's quite amazing that this whole big part with all those solenoids is just the clutches/dif part of the gear...
#62
Wayne, no need to be cynical. I'm not sure why you've found my correction offending. Anyway - this wan't an intention of it.
Storm, thanks for the detailed clarification. So that removing pan doesn't do anything to the oil in the transmission compartment?
Looking at the Wayne's picture of pan removed it's quite amazing that this whole big part with all those solenoids is just the clutches/dif part of the gear...
Storm, thanks for the detailed clarification. So that removing pan doesn't do anything to the oil in the transmission compartment?
Looking at the Wayne's picture of pan removed it's quite amazing that this whole big part with all those solenoids is just the clutches/dif part of the gear...
#63
Further to the topic ... from another source ...
The PDK requires two different lubricants, one for the wet clutches, the other for the gearbox itself.
From the manual:
PDK transmission oil - approx. 3.12 quarts / 2.95 liters ATF transmission oil Mobilube PTX Formula A (SAE 75W-90) GL 4.5 - change at 120K miles or 12 years.
PDK clutch oil - approx. 5.49 quarts / 5.2 liters Pentosin Gear Oil FFL 3 - change at 60 K miles or 6 years.
The PDK requires two different lubricants, one for the wet clutches, the other for the gearbox itself.
From the manual:
PDK transmission oil - approx. 3.12 quarts / 2.95 liters ATF transmission oil Mobilube PTX Formula A (SAE 75W-90) GL 4.5 - change at 120K miles or 12 years.
PDK clutch oil - approx. 5.49 quarts / 5.2 liters Pentosin Gear Oil FFL 3 - change at 60 K miles or 6 years.
#64
This is a good info - but i'm trying to clarify another thing:
#65
The pan does not isolate different chambers. Therefore the one chamber that it does seal would be the clutch oil.
#66
Thanks
#67
My Porsche dealer quoted me $495 (labor & materials) for the PDK clutch oil change. When I asked if I could bring the oil, he said yes, and that I'd need to bring 2 quarts. That makes me nervous to take mine in, so I haven't scheduled it yet. Anyone else had their dealer do this where they used only 2 quarts of oil?
EDIT: I looked at my quote again and now I'm wondering if the 2 things I got quotes for got mixed up. I asked for a quote for the PDK oil change along with a quote for the AWD controller oil change. I'm wondering if my service advisor swapped the details on these 2 oil changes.
This is what he quoted:
AWD Drive Controller Oil Change: $415, P&L, including 8 quarts of oil
PDK Clutch Oil Change: $495 P&L, including 2 quarts of oil
Maybe they're swapped? Thoughts?
EDIT: I looked at my quote again and now I'm wondering if the 2 things I got quotes for got mixed up. I asked for a quote for the PDK oil change along with a quote for the AWD controller oil change. I'm wondering if my service advisor swapped the details on these 2 oil changes.
This is what he quoted:
AWD Drive Controller Oil Change: $415, P&L, including 8 quarts of oil
PDK Clutch Oil Change: $495 P&L, including 2 quarts of oil
Maybe they're swapped? Thoughts?
#68
I just bought an early 09 C2S cab 2 weeks ago, which I think is in superb condition with 85k KMs. Took it to local Porsche Center in Dubai for the 6 year clutch fluid change, they charged me AED 1306 ($355). They used 000 043 305 13 (6 litres) Transmission oil.
#69
Racer
Did you get this clarified? I was thinking the same thing as you when my dealership did a PDK clutch oil change and thought it was odd I was only charged for 2 liters of oil. Then I noticed you too are from St. Louis and I'm guessing you went to Porsche St. Louis as well for the service! Are they not doing a full fluid change w/ the PDKs and if they are not, are they not using PWIS to open the valves and flush the system? I know they have great technicians there so I'm wondering if this is standard protocol and the pan and filter are only replaced along with the full 7 liters of oil for the "needy" Porsche owners
#70
Search functions on my phone suck, but there were posts last September as well. I included a photo of my bill will part numbers including the pan. You should look into the all wheel drive controller oil as well.
#71
Cool, another St. Louis member! Hi! Yes, I had Porsche St. Louis quote me for the work. But, I still haven't taken mine in to have it done yet, and didn't contact them for clarification. I was hoping to get more info here on Rennlist before taking it in since 2 Liters didn't sound right, based on what others on this forum have been saying.
So what I'm gathering is the 60K 6yr PDK clutch fluid change was deemed to be a little premature. Apparently newer models require it at the same time as the gear oil (120K 12yr), so for the "older" cars this is just a simplier/cheaper way to show some maintenance (switching out 2L of fluid) was done on the PDK during the "old" interval requirement. Mind you this is all information I extrapolated from what I was told from Porsche St.Louis as well as information I received from various forums. When you take your car in I'd ask them for a straight up answer because I'm curious to know myself!!
#72
Racer
#73
Racer
Hello! What part of STL do you call home?
So what I'm gathering is the 60K 6yr PDK clutch fluid change was deemed to be a little premature. Apparently newer models require it at the same time as the gear oil (120K 12yr), so for the "older" cars this is just a simplier/cheaper way to show some maintenance (switching out 2L of fluid) was done on the PDK during the "old" interval requirement. Mind you this is all information I extrapolated from what I was told from Porsche St.Louis as well as information I received from various forums. When you take your car in I'd ask them for a straight up answer because I'm curious to know myself!!
So what I'm gathering is the 60K 6yr PDK clutch fluid change was deemed to be a little premature. Apparently newer models require it at the same time as the gear oil (120K 12yr), so for the "older" cars this is just a simplier/cheaper way to show some maintenance (switching out 2L of fluid) was done on the PDK during the "old" interval requirement. Mind you this is all information I extrapolated from what I was told from Porsche St.Louis as well as information I received from various forums. When you take your car in I'd ask them for a straight up answer because I'm curious to know myself!!
#75
My final invoice for my service was ~$350.00 out the door. Other than that, I have no new info. The car runs great with just the 2L fluid replacement. In fact I just tested out the launch control last night and it worked wonderfully