Quad Tips C2
10-02-2014, 12:19 AM
#1
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Quad Tips C2
Has anyone put quad tips on their 997.2 C2 from the standard double exhaust? I would be doing it solely for looks not performance. My 996 had quad tips when I bought it used but not sure if it was stock or a mod.
10-02-2014, 08:25 AM
#2
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The quad and oval tips on a 997.2 have the same size inlet and are fully interchangeable with no modifications (on 997.1s, there were two sizes, a larger size for S and a slightly smaller size for non-S, but this isn't a problem on .2s).
Fabspeed has both a polished stainless and a polished "black chrome" that are nicely done and have a bit nicer/larger look than the factory ones. (I'd think the black chrome ones my go really nicely with your car!). I'd be wary of the cheaper ones you may see on eBay as I'm not sure they are proper t-304 stainless. They may be good but you should check carefully.
Fabspeed has both a polished stainless and a polished "black chrome" that are nicely done and have a bit nicer/larger look than the factory ones. (I'd think the black chrome ones my go really nicely with your car!). I'd be wary of the cheaper ones you may see on eBay as I'm not sure they are proper t-304 stainless. They may be good but you should check carefully.
10-02-2014, 01:12 PM
#3
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
The quad and oval tips on a 997.2 have the same size inlet and are fully interchangeable with no modifications (on 997.1s, there were two sizes, a larger size for S and a slightly smaller size for non-S, but this isn't a problem on .2s). Fabspeed has both a polished stainless and a polished "black chrome" that are nicely done and have a bit nicer/larger look than the factory ones. (I'd think the black chrome ones my go really nicely with your car!). I'd be wary of the cheaper ones you may see on eBay as I'm not sure they are proper t-304 stainless. They may be good but you should check carefully.
10-02-2014, 01:57 PM
#4
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Yeah... welcome to the world of Porsche parts. I don't really understand why Porsche charges quite so much for their parts since they make these things in higher volumes than most of the aftermarket places. I just took a look on the discounted Gaudin Porsche web site and they have the factory ones at around $530 after a roughly 30% discount.
For that money you could get the much nicer aftermarket ones. I can see, to some degree, how aftermarket places have to charge more since their volume is low compared to parts for normal high volume cars like Mustangs/Camaros/etc. However, I think a large part of it is knowing that Porsche owners tend to be better off and they can get away with charging more.
I'd bet a lot of folks here have a pair sitting around they wouldn't mind parting with if you are good with the factory ones (I have ones in storage but I'd prefer to keep them for when I sell the car and put the stock exhaust back on). Consider putting up a parts-wanted listing in that section or take a look at who has recently posted they have upgraded theirs and PM them to see if they are still around.
A final bit of info: I don't know if you saw the other recent thread asking about the unusual bolt head on the tips. They appear to take a special wrench but a standard 10mm socket actually works well on them.
For that money you could get the much nicer aftermarket ones. I can see, to some degree, how aftermarket places have to charge more since their volume is low compared to parts for normal high volume cars like Mustangs/Camaros/etc. However, I think a large part of it is knowing that Porsche owners tend to be better off and they can get away with charging more.
I'd bet a lot of folks here have a pair sitting around they wouldn't mind parting with if you are good with the factory ones (I have ones in storage but I'd prefer to keep them for when I sell the car and put the stock exhaust back on). Consider putting up a parts-wanted listing in that section or take a look at who has recently posted they have upgraded theirs and PM them to see if they are still around.
A final bit of info: I don't know if you saw the other recent thread asking about the unusual bolt head on the tips. They appear to take a special wrench but a standard 10mm socket actually works well on them.
10-02-2014, 02:56 PM
#5
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Yeah... welcome to the world of Porsche parts. I don't really understand why Porsche charges quite so much for their parts since they make these things in higher volumes than most of the aftermarket places. I just took a look on the discounted Gaudin Porsche web site and they have the factory ones at around $530 after a roughly 30% discount. For that money you could get the much nicer aftermarket ones. I can see, to some degree, how aftermarket places have to charge more since their volume is low compared to parts for normal high volume cars like Mustangs/Camaros/etc. However, I think a large part of it is knowing that Porsche owners tend to be better off and they can get away with charging more. I'd bet a lot of folks here have a pair sitting around they wouldn't mind parting with if you are good with the factory ones (I have ones in storage but I'd prefer to keep them for when I sell the car and put the stock exhaust back on). Consider putting up a parts-wanted listing in that section or take a look at who has recently posted they have upgraded theirs and PM them to see if they are still around. A final bit of info: I don't know if you saw the other recent thread asking about the unusual bolt head on the tips. They appear to take a special wrench but a standard 10mm socket actually works well on them.
10-02-2014, 05:11 PM
#6
Drifting
I bought a pair of S tips from a member here. They were in perfect condition and the price was great. Lurk around the parts for sale forum and get some there.
And although it's not necessary, I will back up what StormRune said. The oval C2 and dual C2S tips for 997.2 cars are interchangeable.
And although it's not necessary, I will back up what StormRune said. The oval C2 and dual C2S tips for 997.2 cars are interchangeable.
10-02-2014, 05:23 PM
#7
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
I bought a pair of S tips from a member here. They were in perfect condition and the price was great. Lurk around the parts for sale forum and get some there. And although it's not necessary, I will back up what StormRune said. The oval C2 and dual C2S tips for 997.2 cars are interchangeable.
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10-03-2014, 05:28 PM
#9
Drifting
The Navin Johnson pic is one I use on most forums--even facebook. I love that movie, too.
10-03-2014, 06:41 PM
#10
Burning Brakes
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10-03-2014, 06:42 PM
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No come on... if you can afford to live in Austin these days and own a Porsche, you can certainly pay the small amount they ask for membership here. Heck, if it solves your need for finding affordable exhaust tips, it might just result in a net savings, right?
10-03-2014, 06:50 PM
#12
Burning Brakes
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Kidding, I'll look at the membership.
10-09-2014, 08:38 PM
#13
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Just got some tips, they are en route. How easy is the swap if I get the proper tool?
10-09-2014, 09:35 PM
#14
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Just a normal socket wrench is needed. Use a 10mm socket to loosen the one bolt from the bottom, then twist just a little while pulling straight back and the current tip will slip right off.
Most tips have a nearly circular C-shaped "shim" (I forget the right name) that sits on the inside edge of the inlet where it attaches to the exhaust. This shim is held in place just by spring pressure, you can reach into the inlet of the tip and move it with some effort. I would recommend not pulling it out as it can sometimes be hard to get back in. Sometimes if the fit of the new tip is really tight on the exhaust pipe, it is possible to push the shim farther into the tip. You want to try to keep this as flush to the edge of the inlet as possible and not push it in. Make sure it slides over the exhaust pipe.
The only thing that takes a little fiddling around is getting the tips centered in the gap and the "right" distance up and down (you can swivel and twist the tips around a bit on the pipe). I usually end up spending more time trying to get the alignment perfect than anything. It is good to get the tips fairly firmly tightened first before doing this, leaving them just loose enough that you can still move them. If you try to get them positioned while fairly loose, they will move when you do the final tightening.
Sometimes with used tips it can be hard to slip them on at all (not sure if yours are new or not). If this happens, there is always a slot (to allow room for the tip connection to compress down) and you can use sometime like a thick screwdriver to pry that gap back open a bit... then it should slip on. This normally isn't necessary.
That's all I can think of. Good luck and I hope you enjoy the new look!
Most tips have a nearly circular C-shaped "shim" (I forget the right name) that sits on the inside edge of the inlet where it attaches to the exhaust. This shim is held in place just by spring pressure, you can reach into the inlet of the tip and move it with some effort. I would recommend not pulling it out as it can sometimes be hard to get back in. Sometimes if the fit of the new tip is really tight on the exhaust pipe, it is possible to push the shim farther into the tip. You want to try to keep this as flush to the edge of the inlet as possible and not push it in. Make sure it slides over the exhaust pipe.
The only thing that takes a little fiddling around is getting the tips centered in the gap and the "right" distance up and down (you can swivel and twist the tips around a bit on the pipe). I usually end up spending more time trying to get the alignment perfect than anything. It is good to get the tips fairly firmly tightened first before doing this, leaving them just loose enough that you can still move them. If you try to get them positioned while fairly loose, they will move when you do the final tightening.
Sometimes with used tips it can be hard to slip them on at all (not sure if yours are new or not). If this happens, there is always a slot (to allow room for the tip connection to compress down) and you can use sometime like a thick screwdriver to pry that gap back open a bit... then it should slip on. This normally isn't necessary.
That's all I can think of. Good luck and I hope you enjoy the new look!
10-09-2014, 11:35 PM
#15
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Just a normal socket wrench is needed. Use a 10mm socket to loosen the one bolt from the bottom, then twist just a little while pulling straight back and the current tip will slip right off. Most tips have a nearly circular C-shaped "shim" (I forget the right name) that sits on the inside edge of the inlet where it attaches to the exhaust. This shim is held in place just by spring pressure, you can reach into the inlet of the tip and move it with some effort. I would recommend not pulling it out as it can sometimes be hard to get back in. Sometimes if the fit of the new tip is really tight on the exhaust pipe, it is possible to push the shim farther into the tip. You want to try to keep this as flush to the edge of the inlet as possible and not push it in. Make sure it slides over the exhaust pipe. The only thing that takes a little fiddling around is getting the tips centered in the gap and the "right" distance up and down (you can swivel and twist the tips around a bit on the pipe). I usually end up spending more time trying to get the alignment perfect than anything. It is good to get the tips fairly firmly tightened first before doing this, leaving them just loose enough that you can still move them. If you try to get them positioned while fairly loose, they will move when you do the final tightening. Sometimes with used tips it can be hard to slip them on at all (not sure if yours are new or not). If this happens, there is always a slot (to allow room for the tip connection to compress down) and you can use sometime like a thick screwdriver to pry that gap back open a bit... then it should slip on. This normally isn't necessary. That's all I can think of. Good luck and I hope you enjoy the new look!