Notices
997 Forum 2005-2012
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

SMOKE SMOKE SMOKE!!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-07-2014, 05:50 PM
  #1  
TheLooch
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
TheLooch's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: New York/New Jersey
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default SMOKE SMOKE SMOKE!!

Hello All,

My 997s had been sitting a while... I needed to use a jump to start it and when it fired up it was blasting white/blue smoke everywhere... I let it idle for about 15/20mins and the smoke never subsided... Just keep pouring out. Any idea of what is causing this?

Thanks!!

Steve
Attached Images    
Old 03-07-2014, 06:00 PM
  #2  
neanicu
Nordschleife Master
 
neanicu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Ny
Posts: 9,958
Received 339 Likes on 208 Posts
Default

Since it's been sitting for long I wouldn't jump to serious conclusion as to what white smoke is associated with...
My vote goes to stale gas. Fill up with fresh gas and I believe you'll see a lot of improvement.
Old 03-07-2014, 06:02 PM
  #3  
stronbl
Rennlist Member
 
stronbl's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 1,029
Likes: 0
Received 11 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

How long is "been sitting awhile", months? And what is the model year - is it a 9A1 engine? Any oil leaks from where it was sitting - ground and engine?

Assuming the time has been months since it was last started, and there are no visible oil leaks on ground or around engine parts, and it is a 9A1 engine, then a first guess is you have some lingering/settled oil that will eventually burn out. If it is a 9A1 engine, and although they are marketed as dry sump, its not completely dry. Assuming it is remnant oil, run it to full operating temperature (has to be hot enough to burn off - short 5 min run won't help much), but don't rev it high just in case there is another issue. Keep an eye on the exhaust cloud, it should diminish as engine temps get high enough. If not, then you may have to flatbed it to a shop. But I am optimistic you will just burn off some old oil. Good luck.
Old 03-07-2014, 06:09 PM
  #4  
crazycarlitos
Advanced
 
crazycarlitos's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 98
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

was it parked on a hill during the hibernation ?

if yes, its prob normal and just burning off excess oil.

it is slightly odd that only the right exhaust is emitting smoke.
Old 03-07-2014, 06:12 PM
  #5  
Spoddle
Rennlist Member
 
Spoddle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 244
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

It could be the AOS, but it's more likely just oil which settled in the cylinders and is burning off.
Old 03-07-2014, 06:13 PM
  #6  
myw
Nordschleife Master
 
myw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: richmond hill
Posts: 5,308
Received 529 Likes on 315 Posts
Default

it's M97 engine not DFI.

to the OP was there any gas stabilzer added to the gas before being put into storage?

Originally Posted by stronbl
How long is "been sitting awhile", months? And what is the model year - is it a 9A1 engine? Any oil leaks from where it was sitting - ground and engine?

Assuming the time has been months since it was last started, and there are no visible oil leaks on ground or around engine parts, and it is a 9A1 engine, then a first guess is you have some lingering/settled oil that will eventually burn out. If it is a 9A1 engine, and although they are marketed as dry sump, its not completely dry. Assuming it is remnant oil, run it to full operating temperature (has to be hot enough to burn off - short 5 min run won't help much), but don't rev it high just in case there is another issue. Keep an eye on the exhaust cloud, it should diminish as engine temps get high enough. If not, then you may have to flatbed it to a shop. But I am optimistic you will just burn off some old oil. Good luck.
Old 03-07-2014, 06:28 PM
  #7  
ashah
2nd Gear
 
ashah's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

likely the air oil separator
Old 03-07-2014, 06:43 PM
  #8  
extanker
Banned
 
extanker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,161
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

if it does not stop...AOS
Old 03-07-2014, 07:25 PM
  #9  
holden997
Advanced
 
holden997's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Montreal, Canada
Posts: 95
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

sounds like a ruptured membrane in the AOS.
Old 03-07-2014, 07:25 PM
  #10  
Hella-Buggin'
Rennlist Member
 
Hella-Buggin''s Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: PNW
Posts: 2,973
Received 323 Likes on 179 Posts
Default

So, it's smoking like that and you let it idle for 15 minutes?
If it was oil in the cylinders it would clear in a minute at most.
In the future, if something doesn't seem right, shut it down and call the mechanic.
It could be bad gas but these engines are expensive enough to warrant
a trip to the shop to find out.
Old 03-07-2014, 09:30 PM
  #11  
gpjli2
Three Wheelin'
 
gpjli2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,412
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

Air Oil Separator as suggested above would get you the best odds. And yes you let it run on MUCH too long. Post results of tech findings for us backyard mechanics. Good luck
Old 03-08-2014, 10:13 AM
  #12  
Dadio
Instructor
 
Dadio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 214
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

AOS was most probable cause of the smoking. Take it to a competent mechanic before you do further harm to the engine by letting it idle for 20 minutes again hoping the problem will go away.
Old 03-08-2014, 11:14 AM
  #13  
fskof
Rennlist Member
 
fskof's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Milwaukee, Wi
Posts: 2,355
Received 185 Likes on 108 Posts
Default

As everyone else has said... AOS (Air oil Seperator) common problem. Do a search many posts on it. There is a DIY in the DIY section if your handy.
Old 03-08-2014, 11:37 AM
  #14  
TheLooch
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
TheLooch's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: New York/New Jersey
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Thanks All for the responses! I think to be safe I will have if flat bedded to the mechanic... Will keep you posted on the issue!
Old 03-08-2014, 11:44 AM
  #15  
Sweeper
Burning Brakes
 
Sweeper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: So.FLa/MA
Posts: 882
Received 8 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

that doesn't look like oil smoke to me.


Quick Reply: SMOKE SMOKE SMOKE!!



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 09:13 AM.