2011 GTS purchase question-
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2011 GTS purchase question-
Question for the forum- I am looking at a 2011 GTS, 20,000 miles CPO warranty to 2017, White full brown leather, list price $85K clean but.....
The car has two issues I am concerned about-
1) it is a "Press Car" the good- it is well optioned just the way I want it. The bad- it was not titled until it has 10,000 miles on it. so it was used, abused, by the press for some time.
2) The DME has the following
total hours 773
Range 1 over revs: 9645
Range 2 over revs: 587
Range 3 over revs: 42 @ 478 hours
Range 4 over revs: 71 @ 478 hours
Range 5 over revs: 32 @ 478 hours
Range 6 over revs 0
The car is solid runs well no issues, the dealer is has certified the car even with these readouts and will put it all in print.
so my questions is the "press car" use and the DME results a deal killer? Clearly the press missed a shift and caused the 3-5 over revs above but the car has 295 hours since with no issues and it is CPO'd.
When it comes to selling again I think this becomes and issue for the next guy...
My gut says pass and keep looking. Thoughts from the forum?
The car has two issues I am concerned about-
1) it is a "Press Car" the good- it is well optioned just the way I want it. The bad- it was not titled until it has 10,000 miles on it. so it was used, abused, by the press for some time.
2) The DME has the following
total hours 773
Range 1 over revs: 9645
Range 2 over revs: 587
Range 3 over revs: 42 @ 478 hours
Range 4 over revs: 71 @ 478 hours
Range 5 over revs: 32 @ 478 hours
Range 6 over revs 0
The car is solid runs well no issues, the dealer is has certified the car even with these readouts and will put it all in print.
so my questions is the "press car" use and the DME results a deal killer? Clearly the press missed a shift and caused the 3-5 over revs above but the car has 295 hours since with no issues and it is CPO'd.
When it comes to selling again I think this becomes and issue for the next guy...
My gut says pass and keep looking. Thoughts from the forum?
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Go with your gut and pass. All these questions you're having will come up again when you eventually go to sell it. The car will always have a diminished value stigma attached to it, and it's not priced as such right now.
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I would pass on it myself. I wouldn't want the press car abuse or the range 4 and 5 over revs. Porsche has been known to deny warranty claims because of the over revs.
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How can there be more range 4 than 3 Oh well, what the others said, pass.
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On general principles I would give the car a miss.
Press cars are treated horribly, based on what I have read. For example: All those 0-60mph times that "beat the factory" numbers are accomplished using press cars.
I have some pics of a car carrier parked outside of my office with a bunch of what proved to be press cars -- no Porsches though.
What caught my eye was the color of the brake discs. Almost every one I could see had signs of overheating.
What the heck? I then spoke to the truck driver and he told me the story of the cars.
They were "press" cars that were made available to the press at a press day at a northern CA track.
After the press day were then picked up and on their way to a company that addresses some off the obvious issues, like brakes, tires, and other things that arose from the press day treatment.
Like I started with on general principles I'd give press cars a miss.
Press cars are treated horribly, based on what I have read. For example: All those 0-60mph times that "beat the factory" numbers are accomplished using press cars.
I have some pics of a car carrier parked outside of my office with a bunch of what proved to be press cars -- no Porsches though.
What caught my eye was the color of the brake discs. Almost every one I could see had signs of overheating.
What the heck? I then spoke to the truck driver and he told me the story of the cars.
They were "press" cars that were made available to the press at a press day at a northern CA track.
After the press day were then picked up and on their way to a company that addresses some off the obvious issues, like brakes, tires, and other things that arose from the press day treatment.
Like I started with on general principles I'd give press cars a miss.
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Question for the forum- I am looking at a 2011 GTS, 20,000 miles CPO warranty to 2017, White full brown leather, list price $85K clean but.....
The car has two issues I am concerned about-
1) it is a "Press Car" the good- it is well optioned just the way I want it. The bad- it was not titled until it has 10,000 miles on it. so it was used, abused, by the press for some time.
2) The DME has the following
total hours 773
Range 1 over revs: 9645
Range 2 over revs: 587
Range 3 over revs: 42 @ 478 hours
Range 4 over revs: 71 @ 478 hours
Range 5 over revs: 32 @ 478 hours
Range 6 over revs 0
The car is solid runs well no issues, the dealer is has certified the car even with these readouts and will put it all in print.
so my questions is the "press car" use and the DME results a deal killer? Clearly the press missed a shift and caused the 3-5 over revs above but the car has 295 hours since with no issues and it is CPO'd.
When it comes to selling again I think this becomes and issue for the next guy...
My gut says pass and keep looking. Thoughts from the forum?
The car has two issues I am concerned about-
1) it is a "Press Car" the good- it is well optioned just the way I want it. The bad- it was not titled until it has 10,000 miles on it. so it was used, abused, by the press for some time.
2) The DME has the following
total hours 773
Range 1 over revs: 9645
Range 2 over revs: 587
Range 3 over revs: 42 @ 478 hours
Range 4 over revs: 71 @ 478 hours
Range 5 over revs: 32 @ 478 hours
Range 6 over revs 0
The car is solid runs well no issues, the dealer is has certified the car even with these readouts and will put it all in print.
so my questions is the "press car" use and the DME results a deal killer? Clearly the press missed a shift and caused the 3-5 over revs above but the car has 295 hours since with no issues and it is CPO'd.
When it comes to selling again I think this becomes and issue for the next guy...
My gut says pass and keep looking. Thoughts from the forum?
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A P-car with over revs in range 5 or 6 does not qualify for Porsche CPO. Is this GTS in TX?
My recommendation: walk
I have a 2011 GTS and love it. There are much better examples available online.
My recommendation: walk
I have a 2011 GTS and love it. There are much better examples available online.
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[QUOTE=CTK;10587185]A P-car with over revs in range 5 or 6 does not qualify for Porsche CPO. Is this GTS in TX?
In Colorado, Prestige Imports in Lakewood.
In Colorado, Prestige Imports in Lakewood.
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+1 not buying press car. No break in period and as much abuse as you can imagine, no thanks.
Having said that, I wouldn't be concerned with the over revs. Just me though.
Having said that, I wouldn't be concerned with the over revs. Just me though.
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Interesting problem. Car has CPO till 2017 and it has been almost 300 hours (about 7,700 miles) since last over-rev occurance. But, not at that price of $85. For the right price, I could see a resolution.
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Gut no, pocket book no, brain no, despite what heart says, no.
. A dme is a diagnostic read out of the engine management system by dealership equipment/software or aftermarket software such as durametric.
What are the parameters for an over rev? What is a DME? Thanks
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I guess I don't understand an over rev, when the rev limiter would protect the engine, or doesn't it?
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