5mm Spacers - Can you see it? (Lonnnng w/pics)
03-12-2006, 08:54 PM
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5mm Spacers - Can you see it? (Lonnnng w/pics)
Can you see the difference with the notorious 5mm spacer set on a 997 C4S?
Take the following test concerning the three photo exhibits shown below – these are A, B and C as written in Speed Yellow text.
All three photos were taken within an hour of each other at my remote testing facility (actually, it was at my mother’s house safely removed from the confines of Boston). The camera was on a tripod which was taped securely in place. The only difference is the position of the sun !!!!!! (I tried to control this but could not).
There are two sets of wheels involved:
-19” Carrera Classics with stock Michi PS2: 8J 235/35 front, 11J 305/30 rear
-18” MM3 with Winter Conti T810S: 8.5J 235/35 front, 10J 265/40 rear
One pic is with the Winter Contis and a 17mm spacer in the rear; One pic is with the Carrera Classics w/o spacers; One pic is with Carrera Classics w/5mm spacers x4.
Scroll down slowly so you don’t spoil it,…if you can’t see the 18” MM3 wheels, please visit another automotive forum now.
Yes, you guessed correctly….
A=18” Winter mode
B=Stock 19” Carrera Classics w/o spacers
C=Stock 19” Carrera Classics w/5mm spacers x4
It is indeed a fairly subtle difference. Was it worth the $292??? Maybe. I always felt like the stock rubber should have filled out the rear well a bit more on the C4 series – but it’s hard for me to tell now as I am just so damn happy to have my ‘real’ rubber back on the car.
Here are some other pics from my day of changing the tires over & over & over.
The 5mm Kit:
The kit comes with 20 new bolts (including 4 locking ones) which are 5mm longer:
Rear Hub: no spacer, 17mm spacer, 5mm spacer respectively:
Front Hub: no spacer, 5mm spacer, top view w/spacer respectively:
And,…the finished product:
Take the following test concerning the three photo exhibits shown below – these are A, B and C as written in Speed Yellow text.
All three photos were taken within an hour of each other at my remote testing facility (actually, it was at my mother’s house safely removed from the confines of Boston). The camera was on a tripod which was taped securely in place. The only difference is the position of the sun !!!!!! (I tried to control this but could not).
There are two sets of wheels involved:
-19” Carrera Classics with stock Michi PS2: 8J 235/35 front, 11J 305/30 rear
-18” MM3 with Winter Conti T810S: 8.5J 235/35 front, 10J 265/40 rear
One pic is with the Winter Contis and a 17mm spacer in the rear; One pic is with the Carrera Classics w/o spacers; One pic is with Carrera Classics w/5mm spacers x4.
Scroll down slowly so you don’t spoil it,…if you can’t see the 18” MM3 wheels, please visit another automotive forum now.
Yes, you guessed correctly….
A=18” Winter mode
B=Stock 19” Carrera Classics w/o spacers
C=Stock 19” Carrera Classics w/5mm spacers x4
It is indeed a fairly subtle difference. Was it worth the $292??? Maybe. I always felt like the stock rubber should have filled out the rear well a bit more on the C4 series – but it’s hard for me to tell now as I am just so damn happy to have my ‘real’ rubber back on the car.
Here are some other pics from my day of changing the tires over & over & over.
The 5mm Kit:
The kit comes with 20 new bolts (including 4 locking ones) which are 5mm longer:
Rear Hub: no spacer, 17mm spacer, 5mm spacer respectively:
Front Hub: no spacer, 5mm spacer, top view w/spacer respectively:
And,…the finished product:
Last edited by Coochas; 03-12-2006 at 09:11 PM.
03-12-2006, 10:10 PM
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I love how you post these pic showing the difference and keeping the angle of the camera same pot. That just how I like to see thing. Thanks for the great pic. and write up
03-12-2006, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by meaker
I love how you post these pic showing the difference and keeping the angle of the camera same pot. That just how I like to see thing. Thanks for the great pic. and write up
How did you get that exact same spot when you had to have moved the car?
[the car is in the same spot too?]
03-12-2006, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by drbf
Can you notice Any difference in the way the car handles with the 5mm spacers?
03-12-2006, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by crispenigl
I was noticing that myself.
How did you get that exact same spot when you had to have moved the car?
[the car is in the same spot too?]
How did you get that exact same spot when you had to have moved the car?
[the car is in the same spot too?]
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03-13-2006, 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Coochas
Elementary Watson! The car never moved: I used a standard floor jack for each tire change,...yes, this means I jacked the car up and down about 6 times (I am sooo sore). Also, the rear rotors will not move when in gear with the parking brake on - so, the wheel bolts stay in the same place each time I changed the wheel.
Since I got my Lift I have never used a floor jack. I would work under my car and break my back and arms.Thank God those days are long gone. Now I just push a button and the car goes up in the air. Get a good night sleep and you'll feel better in the morning.
Best Wishes and good luck with that beautiful car!!!
03-13-2006, 02:23 AM
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Three Wheelin'
Nice post - great pics & details.
Personally though I'm thinking the built-in 17's are plenty. In fact, if anything I wish they didn't have spacers and had deep inset rims with a deep lip like the older 911's used to have.
Personally though I'm thinking the built-in 17's are plenty. In fact, if anything I wish they didn't have spacers and had deep inset rims with a deep lip like the older 911's used to have.
03-13-2006, 10:11 AM
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Looks nice!
Now one question that seems odd....
Why do some trade mags list the C2S with 305's as opposed to 295's in the back? I know the C4S HAS 305's in the rear. Std 19" wheels on C2S.
I wonder what it would do if I switched to 305's in the rear of my C2S when it arrives? Maybe add spacers as well?
Thanks for any input on this one.
Regards,
Deanski
Now one question that seems odd....
Why do some trade mags list the C2S with 305's as opposed to 295's in the back? I know the C4S HAS 305's in the rear. Std 19" wheels on C2S.
I wonder what it would do if I switched to 305's in the rear of my C2S when it arrives? Maybe add spacers as well?
Thanks for any input on this one.
Regards,
Deanski
03-13-2006, 10:47 AM
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Three Wheelin'
Originally Posted by ronmart
Nice post - great pics & details.
Personally though I'm thinking the built-in 17's are plenty. In fact, if anything I wish they didn't have spacers and had deep inset rims with a deep lip like the older 911's used to have.
Personally though I'm thinking the built-in 17's are plenty. In fact, if anything I wish they didn't have spacers and had deep inset rims with a deep lip like the older 911's used to have.
03-14-2006, 07:29 AM
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did you feel the dif coochas???