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Old 02-20-2024, 06:46 PM
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Default Intake options for tiptronic / piping or filters on turbos?

Per the title. I’ve been researching options for freeing up the intake piping on my tiptronic. I know the FVD and Markski soft tube ones won’t work. I also see that hard piping may not work. Has anyone tackled this before ( yes I realize it’s motor out with a tip) and if so what did you use/ do? I see filters on the turbos direct and mafless tune are maybe the only options s? Thanks for the responses in advance - scrh1
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I run the Markski soft tubes but if I was going to go mafless I'd get a fender type solution. The filters on turbos are just too low to the ground where the dirt is for me. The Protomotive setup is beautiful. https://www.protomotive.com/wp422/pr...v=7516fd43adaa

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Originally Posted by Bernard IV
I run the Markski soft tubes but if I was going to go mafless I'd get a fender type solution. The filters on turbos are just too low to the ground where the dirt is for me. The Protomotive setup is beautiful. https://www.protomotive.com/wp422/pr...v=7516fd43adaa

Thanks ! I can’t recall of your car is a tip or 6MT? I know I’m going to have to drop the motor regardless. If I can do the soft pipes then I will otherwise loo,omg st options. Seems like the soft pipes won’t for with the tip based on my research. Th. - scrh1

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I have a tiptronic and im doing this as well in the spring when I go with a mafless setup. I am going to either custom fab my own using some 3d printing methods and some custom fabbing on my end. There are no tiptronic intakes available as far as I know.

courtesy of @2jzhx60 on his x50 tiptronic.

I asked him a few months ago if he could 3d scan these for us as these are custom fabricated by him. They are very nice.







Here are the 3d printed ones, a friend of mine will print these for me using the high temp oil resistant plastic. they look very similar to protomotives fender well intakes

Cold Air Intake Adapter by Antonio_EsGa - Thingiverse





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Mine were made using a 2"/2.5" 90-degree silicone elbow and a piece of 2.5" 90-degree mandrel bent aluminum pipe that I massaged into the right shape to fit into place, along with custom made AFE dry filters that I run hyrdophobic socks on.





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Thanks gents! Exactly what I was after. The promote ones look great but are spendy. if I can get these printed on one of my commercial 3d printers that would be amazing. I’ll check with my team when I am back onsite next week and see what it would take for them to make a run for me. Thx ! - scrh1
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The 3D printed intake I posted is not specific to our car or any car for that matter but if you know someone who is good at CAD and can modify it or use it in conjunction with some silicone hoses and aluminum pipes it woul probably be useful.


If you get something made up for our cars, would you mind sharing the files?
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Also, markski has fenderwell intakes as well.

2.5″ intake piping- mafless setup – markskituning.com – Custom tuning and upgrades for Porsche Turbos models
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Originally Posted by Scrh1
Thanks ! I can’t recall of your car is a tip or 6MT? I know I’m going to have to drop the motor regardless. If I can do the soft pipes then I will otherwise loo,omg st options. Seems like the soft pipes won’t for with the tip based on my research. Th. - scrh1
My car is a 6 speed. That's too bad the pipes don't fit the tip cars but welding up a fender intake shouldn't be too difficult.
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Curious where the interference is on Tiptronic cars? Is clearance an issue on both the passenger and driver side? I just completed design of a new intake for manual 996TT which I plan to get a few sets made for after I confirm fitment (currently being manufactured).

I'm happy to work on a better fender well design for these cars too if there is a demand. I have a scanner and CAD/CFD software. My intake design below was optimized through CFD for the lowest pressure drop possible.




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Apparently there's no room for the larger pipes to run down the forward side of the engine. It's a tight squeeze on the 6sp cars. If you could come close to the Protomotive design you would have a winner. Tire clearance is an issue in that area so his flat wide pipe is an amazing solution.

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Originally Posted by Bernard IV
Apparently there's no room for the larger pipes to run down the forward side of the engine. It's a tight squeeze on the 6sp cars.
Yeah, that's true on both the tip/manual cars. I'm guessing the tiptronic trans is a big wider which is why the current aftermarket intake setups don't fit. I'll consult Google.
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Maybe a flat but wide oval shaped pipe would work in there for the tip cars. The factory airbox actually flows and cleans air surprisingly well so it is nice to be able to keep it below the 800hp range.
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Originally Posted by Bernard IV
Maybe a flat but wide oval shaped pipe would work in there for the tip cars. The factory airbox actually flows and cleans air surprisingly well so it is nice to be able to keep it below the 800hp range.
If anyone with a tiptronic trans has a picture of their drivetrain out (from the transmission side), that would be super helpful to see exactly what is different on the firewall side of the drivetrain.
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Chopping up / deleting the upper intercoolers duct is moronic as it completely kills the efficiency of the whole intercooler ducting system.

One thing to keep in mind is that the fender well piping limits the size of the rear wheel and tire combo. Not an issue for most but it is an issue when going big.

I would personally never run fender well intakes. The factory air box is excellent for anything below 800whp and provides cool ambient air. The post airbox manifold and piping are the drawback. If someone comes up with a reliable solution, it will be a winner. Paopao may have a great solution here...

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