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Old 07-25-2016, 11:18 PM
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So I love my TT. Wanted to get a nice one and keep it stock, but was fixated on green so I bought one with 997 rims and an exhaust on it.

Got a set of original wheels back on and put in a tune, which makes it nearly as fast as my modded 68 Triumph, so it's quick enough.

The problem is that it's a bit floaty on some of the local twisty bits. Which can be disconcerting when there's adverse camber and your right foot involved.

Oh and it's bloody loud. Stupid exhaust...

The shocks and springs are original but are working ok. Local specialist said they were fine. Car has 40k of light use.

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I want it to stay stock looking. It isn't likely to get tracked and I'm not looking to compromise compliance when I'm not hoofing it. I have one car that's a roller skate, I don't need two.

What's my best bet to upgrade so I can get through an S bend without sea sickness that doesn't require a second mortgage but that still looks stock?
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You could start with a good alignment and a set of sway bars from GMG, H&R or Eibach. I prefer the GMGs because of their combination of light weight and stiffness. The OEM front bar is very weak. That in combination with the soft USA spec front springs gives the car its floaty feel.

If you want to go further than that you do a set of H&R springs or ROW OEM Porsche springs or onto a full set of coilovers. But some nice aftermarket sway bars and alignment might be all you need to make you happy.
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It's been aligned - it was when I fitted the (new to me) OE wheels and new Michelins.
I'll look at the sway bars, thx.
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Agreed with Carlo_Carrera.

If you want to keep the stock look, go with sway bars and alignment. I've rode in a car with sway bars vs my stock suspension car and it is a pretty big difference. IF you wanted to stay all OEM you could even go for GT3 sway bars (my plan).

You could also seek out the non-US spec suspension components to tighten up the handling to how the rest of the world gets to experience the car. I think the outside of US suspension does change the ride height slightly, but it is still OEM so while it would look different, it wouldn't look extremely off if it changes.

edit: RE: alignment-- I believe the poster above and I are referring to a more "performance/handling" oriented alignment than standard alignment... I think your biggest change will be sway bars, though.
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H&R coil over kit for about $1600?
Bilstein sports and some springs and bars from Eibach?
Not sure of reviews on these but they would be at the lower end of cost, unless you pick up some used Pss10s.

I run the Pss10 on the Street and track but would prefer adjustable compression for our lovely Seattle roads.
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Old 07-26-2016, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by T10Chris
Agreed with Carlo_Carrera.

If you want to keep the stock look, go with sway bars and alignment. I've rode in a car with sway bars vs my stock suspension car and it is a pretty big difference. IF you wanted to stay all OEM you could even go for GT3 sway bars (my plan).

You could also seek out the non-US spec suspension components to tighten up the handling to how the rest of the world gets to experience the car. I think the outside of US suspension does change the ride height slightly, but it is still OEM so while it would look different, it wouldn't look extremely off if it changes.
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ive installed the GMG sways and will be getting the adjustable rear toe link and lock out kit soon as finances allow over the next few months working toward a coilover set up. I'm trying to do bits at a time to not beat the credit cards too bad all at once. the sways did seem to help and was a logical 1st step after researching a ton here.

regarding the euro suspension set up, the something-30 (clarify the title of that suspension package designation, someone?) I found a set a few months back locally here on CL list for cheap $600. I never did look at the set up in person, but what I found was the shocks were not rebuildable, like the OE US versions. I was reluctant to buy what were described as a 30k mile, 10 year old set up as I figured they were tired, and again not rebuildable. I passed on the sale deciding to save more for the ultimate coilover goal. so any 030(?) set up at this point could likely have tired shocks. the springs might still be sound if not rusted at contact points or other knicks from extended usage at 10+ years old..

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Originally Posted by juanbenae
ive installed the GMG sways and will be getting the adjustable rear toe link and lock out kit soon as finances allow over the next few months working toward a coilover set up. I'm trying to do bits at a time to not beat the credit cards too bad all at once. the sways did seem to help and was a logical 1st step after researching a ton here.

regarding the euro suspension set up, the something-30 (clarify the title of that suspension package designation, someone?) I found a set a few months back locally here on CL list for cheap $600. I never did look at the set up in person, but what I found was the shocks were not rebuildable, like the OE US versions. I was reluctant to buy what were described as a 30k mile, 10 year old set up as I figured they were tired, and again not rebuildable. I passed on the sale deciding to save more for the ultimate coilover goal. so any 030(?) set up at this point could likely have tired shocks. the springs might still be sound if not rusted at contact points or other knicks from extended usage at 10+ years old..

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M030 I think is the code.. RoW M030 because apparently there is a US M030 that isn't as good.. It's still available new as far as I know, but I'd go with something adjustable if I was going to go that far as to replace shocks/springs.
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Forest green.



I want it to look totally stock. I went nuts on the Triumph, and I'm trying to avoid going down the same - extremely expensive - path with this one.

I'll look at swaybars - and see if that dials it back.

Edit: These?
http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/...UPG996_pg4.htm

Seem cheap. And if that's really how they attach, look ridiculously easy to install.
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Originally Posted by T10Chris
Agreed with Carlo_Carrera.

edit: RE: alignment-- I believe the poster above and I are referring to a more "performance/handling" oriented alignment than standard alignment... I think your biggest change will be sway bars, though.
Curious, what would the specs be for such an alignment?
Thanks
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Originally Posted by Alan A

I'll look at swaybars - and see if that dials it back.

Edit: These?
http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/...UPG996_pg4.htm

Seem cheap. And if that's really how they attach, look ridiculously easy to install.
Yes, that is them. The rear installs in a few minutes. The front takes more time and requires the partial removal of two lower suspension links. Not a big deal.
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Originally Posted by MDKK
Curious, what would the specs be for such an alignment?
Thanks


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Originally Posted by Carlo_Carrera
Thanks! I needed this. Do you have the stock one to compare?
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Originally Posted by 911 Rod
....Do you have the stock one to compare?
Sorry I do not. I have never used stock alignment settings on any of my Porsches. I've always gone with a more aggressive set up.
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Originally Posted by Carlo_Carrera
Sorry I do not. I have never used stock alignment settings on any of my Porsches. I've always gone with a more aggressive set up.
Any issues with this setup on a lowered car with 997TT 19's on it?

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