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Old 07-19-2016, 12:31 AM
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Hi,
I am familiarizing myself with Texas road law and I have come across the citation "Exhibition of speed". It's basically this:

Exhibition of Speed or Acceleration. Those acts which cause or create unnecessary rapid acceleration, unnecessary tire squeal, skid, smoke, or slide upon acceleration or stopping including the casting of tread, gravel, dirt or other road surface materials from the tires; acts that simulate a temporary race; acts that cause the vehicle to unnecessarily turn abruptly, sway or lose traction with the road surface.

I quite enjoy the unneccessary acceleration my X50 provides only there is no squealing and skidding thanks to the excellent 4WD and traction control.

Have you guys ever had issues with exhibition of speed citations in your Turbos?
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Old 07-19-2016, 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by WOTever
... thanks to the excellent 4WD...
It's actually AWD.

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Have you guys ever had issues with exhibition of speed citations in your Turbos?
No.
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Just be smart about enjoying the car.
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agree! be smart. i'm cross posting as my thoughts belong here ( if anywhere? ), moreso here than the other thread in which this has become ( again ) a "debate". if in fact, it is even worthy of one..probably not.

but it's hard to find a topic on the internet about which most breaking the law crow about it as often or with as much impunity as this one..until something terrible happens. yet, this IS a porsche forum! and who among us bought this car for its "slow driving capabilities" and characteristics?!

still i'm in the "must be my age" camp but i have as much fun at 30 mph in this car as any here. at least around posted 15mph turns. is this "safe or legal"? debatable, and yet within the parameters set by the CA "basic speed law" which posits one must never drive faster than "it is safe".

the rest of this while debatable to some "minor" and varying degree? is no laughing matter. i agree, there are too many places to "exhibit speed" legally, and none are on the street. this car carries with it a greater degree of responsibility to OTHERS ( if not ones self ) that many do not. i say, have fun, but heed that.
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Originally Posted by Dock
It's actually AWD
Interesting. My other car, a 1990 VW Syncro, has essentially the same drivetrain as my 996tt, a viscous coupling, but the factory decals read 4WD.

It also has a rear turbocharged engine for good measure.
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Originally Posted by WOTever
Hi,
I am familiarizing myself with Texas road law and I have come across the citation "Exhibition of speed". It's basically this:

Exhibition of Speed or Acceleration. Those acts which cause or create unnecessary rapid acceleration, unnecessary tire squeal, skid, smoke, or slide upon acceleration or stopping including the casting of tread, gravel, dirt or other road surface materials from the tires; acts that simulate a temporary race; acts that cause the vehicle to unnecessarily turn abruptly, sway or lose traction with the road surface.

I quite enjoy the unneccessary acceleration my X50 provides only there is no squealing and skidding thanks to the excellent 4WD and traction control.

Have you guys ever had issues with exhibition of speed citations in your Turbos?
You ain't doing it right. Even my standard 2003 Turbo will break the rear tires loose on pavement under extreme acceleration. I have only done this once or twice though as those rear tires are super expensive.

The AWD plays no role, is not active, under launch conditions. No rear tire spin is courtesy of those big fat sticky rear tires and the amount of weight over them and the weight transfer when the car is launched. However, as I touched upon agove this can be overcome if one is rather brutal with the clutch and the throttle.
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Exhibition of speed is the fallback citation if they couldn't actually radar/clock you but are determined to issue a citation anyway.

All of the a$$clowns who lose the rear end of their Corvettes when trying to speed out of Cars and Coffee and wind up nearly going across the sidewalk collect lots of Exhibition of Speed citations.

When I was 16 and doing donuts in the Heidi's Frogen Yozurt (!) parking lot at midnight with a car full of dudes, a patrol car lit me up and presented the following option: a citation for Exhibition of Speed or quit being stupid. I was very grateful to be allowed to choose the latter...

As far as the AWD vs. 4WD "debate" - if all the wheels are driven, and there are four wheels....ain't it 4-wheel drive?

I have a '96 Corvette with a number of drivetrain modifications that results in me being able to do incredible feats of magic vis-a-vis turning tires into smoke - and I have yet to get one of these citations. If you avoid being a complete douche, you'll probably be just fine.
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This did not occur in Texas, but I got an exhibition of speed ticket in my 20s with a single turbo Supra.

In my case, it was treated like an enhanced reckless driving charge in court; it was reduced to "laying drag" which is still pretty ****ty since every insurance company interpreted that as drag racing.

As mentioned above, it is a catch all citation if they know you were speeding/launched your car/etc but couldn't get an actual speed, or if they just think what you did deserves a citation that doesn't fall under anything else..
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I don't know of any instance where Porsche refers to the 996 Turbo's drive system as anything other than AWD. There may be references out there, but I haven't seen them.

Generally speaking, unlike 4WD, AWD is on all of the time and does not provide a fixed 50/50 split in power between the front and rear wheels.
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Originally Posted by Macster
The AWD plays no role, is not active, under launch conditions.
While I agree that AWD plays no role during hard launches, it is in fact always active. If memory serves me, the 996 Turbo always sends 5% of the power to the front wheels, with the maximum being 40%.
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Originally Posted by WOTever
Interesting. My other car, a 1990 VW Syncro, has essentially the same drivetrain as my 996tt, a viscous coupling, but the factory decals read 4WD.

It also has a rear turbocharged engine for good measure.
Have you ever gotten a ticket in it for "Exhibition of Slow"?

Thinking seriously about gettin' one of these to put just under the "Turbo" badge on my car:


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Originally Posted by kcattorney
Have you ever gotten a ticket in it for "Exhibition of Slow"?
Don't know what you're talking about. The engine has a whopping Diesel 70HP!!!
It is about as fast as a wandering dune and it keeps that speed on crazy inclines thanks to its very short 1st gear and diff locks.
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^ Hey, it looks pretty badass to me in that pic!
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Originally Posted by WOTever
Don't know what you're talking about. The engine has a whopping Diesel 70HP!!!
It is about as fast as a wandering dune and it keeps that speed on crazy inclines thanks to its very short 1st gear and diff locks.
70 Hp is awesome! My old 82 Westy diesel had only 50. Topped out at 62 MPH and semis passed me on inclines.
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Originally Posted by Dock
I don't know of any instance where Porsche refers to the 996 Turbo's drive system as anything other than AWD. There may be references out there, but I haven't seen them.

Generally speaking, unlike 4WD, AWD is on all of the time and does not provide a fixed 50/50 split in power between the front and rear wheels.
Mmmm, Dock, you are losing yourself in a trail of silly semantics and marketing-speak.

AWD would only be meaningful in relation to 4wd if you had more than 4 wheels.

My Range Rovers have 4wd. All of them have full time 4wd. Some have an open middle diff unless manually locked. Others have a viscous coupling. And the newest has an electronic differential that splits the torque differently in different situations. Google "land rover terrain response system" if you are seriously interested.

I think the main reason Porsche may have gone with AWD vs. 4wd is because the German term most commonly used for 4wd is Allradantrieb. Translated = Allwheeldrive. In Germany, a Jeep Wrangler, MB G-Wagen, and my Range Rovers all have Allradantrieb.
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