993GT

I might take a pic of used Pirelli's vs Falken's...you'll see what is more durable...lol
BTW, Sumitomo HTRZ3 are great street tires...I've run many of them on different cars...

jeanmarcboilard

Thanks for chiming in and clarifying that Rob. I figured the guys might take the Falkens more seriously if you vouched for them.

Road King

I'm 4000 miles into my falken Azenis 453s and they are working out well. My car is driven 90% in the mountains / canyons and the Falkens provide ample grip. Good tire for the money. I'll consider upgrading to GT2 size Falken FK615s when my current tires wear out.

DaveCarrera4

I can vouch for the Bridgestone SO2's. They amaze me at how similar they perform at the track to the PS2's, and really just a great all around street tire. I put them pretty even to the PS2's I have on my Cayman S. As to the Toyos I had on the turbo... As Pauly Walnuts would say, fergetaboutit.

"02996ttx50

i'm not sure if your're on turbo "stock" or gt2 sizes? i'm using the larger sizes further limiting ?) my choices.

but i just cant/won't deal with the michelin price any longer i no longer even give them any consideration. $550 ea for rear in 315/30 and i cant even squeeze more than 5k miles out of them

yeah, i'd like to try them! moreso the 615's. but have you broken in the 453 and is it a "summer" tire". that's what need to be run up here in desert type canyons. hell i've given up on the euro/asian debate since pirelli is now chinese owned though my last set was still german made.


rob's been talking up the falken rt615's for a long time so if they're available in gt2 sizing they'd be on my short list also. i'd just like a rear to get me 7k miles and so far the p zeros has been getting that, so i'm good with that. plus they are very price competitive. i've gotten used to their noise level. it's a harder ride though than the ps'2 which is/was! my ( old ) preference. just not worth the $ difference to me.

Carlo_Carrera

That is what people used to say about Japanese tires.

Carlo_Carrera

The NT-01s are great street tires if you live in a place where it never gets too cold or rarely rains. I have encountered some very serious hydroplaning while driving on them in rain storms even when the tires were brand new.

I use the NT-01s for the track only and use the cheapest crap tires I can find for street driving. Using crappy tires on the street make driving the car more fun day to day because they have less grip I feel like I can experience the edge of adhesion at lower speeds.

vogz

The Japanese were never known for producing mass quantities of sub par, knock off crap like the Chinese do.

Olemiss540

++++1, these cars are already dangerously fast on the street. A ****ty tire can be a lot more fun with a lot less risk as long as you have dedicated rubber for the track!

autobonrun

I didn't realize it was that bad. One year back order is silly. I've completely written Michelin off as an option for my performance tires. I run Sumi's on my 993. I'm on my third set and you can't beat the price. I have an all season and snow tire set of Michelins on my SUV. That's all I use them for now.

Carlo_Carrera

You must be young because in the 1950s, 60s and even the early 70s that is exactly what the Japanese were know for making. In the USA in those days "Made in Japan" was synonyms with "crap".

Macster

Bought the Boxster Jan. 19, 2002 in Merriam KS with several inches of snow on the ground. I drove the car in all weather until March of that year when I got a VW Golf TDi to use as my bad weather car. But the Boxster got driven in cold weather just not in snow or ice. I remained in the KC MO area until March of 2004 when I moved back to northern CA to take a new job.

The Boxster -- and the Turbo -- have seen their share of cold. From Dec 21 to Jan 11 in 2014 the Turbo was back in the mid-west enduring extreme cold down in the single digits. While the engine was fine -- with 5w-50 oil though I wouldn't advise someone to follow my example -- I think the cold played a role in taking out the Turbo's radiators.

993GT

I've been fortunate to run most of the performance tires out there, both on our 996 platform as well as other cars.
The RT615K seems to be the most 'pure' performance tire that is happy both street and track. It is not as compliant as PS2, Advan Sport, Pzero Rosso, FK453, etc, but gives much greater feedback and stability with added grip. It is also the longest lasting tire I've had, go figure! I contribute it to greater feedback allowing less 'over-driving' and tread block stability
Cheers,
Rob

Think you'll like the RT615K, like a Fk453 with more grip/feedback but with a bit more NVH
RT615K are the best performance tire I've run on my car, also the longest lasting! lol...
I'm hoping T.R. will start to actively carry Falken, or even just the RT615K...I'm ok with the Pirelli's, but the Falken's are 'proper'

993GT

speaking of snow and ice, I can tell you N-spec PS2's are completely hopeless on even a little hard-pack...the non-spec PS2's seem much better here

Macster

Yes. I recall -- I hope I remember this correctly.-- Japan Inc (the term used to describe how closely the Japanese government and Japanese industry worked together) came up with a new city called Usa so goods manufactured could be labeled "Made in Usa".

Japan effected a turn around in quality when they adapted heart and soul the teachings of a guy called Deming who was a proponent of quality through a disciplined approach from the very beginning of product development all the way to its manufacturing.

USA manufactures ignored his teachings but the Japanese didn't and the turn-around in quality was remarkable and helped Japan reach the levels of manufacturing greatness it still has.