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that's an outrageous and specious analogy that does nothing to support your ( now ) argument. whatever in the world would that have to do with the ( now?! ) debate about a type of battery and its potential for catching fire ON IMPACT! notice it wasn't me that made mention of a 918 that caught fire because gasoline hit its hot tailpipe in an effort to support some notion that a 918 was prone to, or had shown a propensity for, catching fire. I'm not of that particular belief. ( WHY.. do i bother lol )
though now you're becoming *seemingly* more astute at offering up analogies that are at least on a certain level, apt. but i wont count upon you for any consistency in this, in fact i'll call it a fluke.
i'll say it again, in case you missed it, though i think you're just wriggling out of the reality that a very real "commonality" irrespective of who MAKES the lithium ion batteries in question, exists. clearly in an attempt to argue against the notion that:
their commonality is and WOULD BE that THEY BOTH ( tesla and any hybrid porsche ) USE BATTERIES. that conclusion is based upon a simple fact, and the recognition of this fact of commonality is a result of an ability to think critically. all else are merely details, whether germane or not, they do NOTHING to undermine the assertion that any inherent danger that exists in one lithium ion battery, by it's very nature and definition, exists in the other!
this has far more to do with causal relationships, than it does batteries, themselves.
i could ( but won't bother ) continue to try to explain, but i can't help you understand it. i've been thru enough debates here with you before, and tire of their circular nature, so i'll drop it here.
Easy there big guy. I was not trying to offend you, but in my world a Tesla Model S and Porsche Turbo hybrid have about as much in common as a JohnDeere and Porsche. That is all I was stating. If you see things differently that is your prerogative.
As for Lithium ion batteries you can rest assured that all the hybrid and electric vehicles that have been on the roads for nearly a decade have passed the same government crash tests world wide as their internal combustion counterpart.
I'll see your tractor and raise you a tiger. PSM takes its roots from tread based vehicles (not true, but someone will still see this and try to prove me wrong)
I'll see your tractor and raise you a tiger. PSM takes its roots from tread based vehicles (not true, but someone will still see this and try to prove me wrong)
He also designed the Elefant.
I am not sure about the PSM but I do know the Elefant was well respected for its superior handling. It was so good they decided they could use a fixed turret. A two year scientific study was called by Porsche in 2009. They really wanted to know if the additional weight would be a problem with the 911 design going foward. So this perspective into the past gave them the answer they were looking for and the 991 was born.
We crowd-funded a TT for him so we could heft him out of the 996 N/A forums.
Maybe we should fund him a 944 and send him over there?
Ah, too late Cuda, I already own one. But since rmc has his wallet open, I'm thinking a Macan might be nice. But then I'd be stuck with Rubik all the time.
Porsche will bring the Mission E electric sedan to production by 2020. The company's board just gave the thumbs up for further development of the vehicle on Dec. 4. "Even in a greatly changing motoring world, Porsche will maintain its front-row position with this fascinating sports car," Dr. Wolfgang Porsche, chairman of the supervisory board of Porsche AG, said in the model's announcement.
The Mission E debuted at the 2015 Frankfurt Motor Show as a long-slung sedan in a mix of aluminum, steel, and carbon-fiber reinforced polymer. The concept featured two permanent magnet synchronous motors with over 590 horsepower, all-wheel drive with torque vectoring, and four-wheel steering. Porsche claimed that the model could reach 62 miles per hour in less than 3.5 seconds and offer a 500-kilometer (310.7-mile) range on the European testing cycle. Plus, the brand alleged the vehicle could lap the Nordschleife in less than eight minutes. The concept version also boasted an 800-volt charger to provide 80 percent of the range just 15 minutes after the driver plugged it in.
We won't know for some time how much of this cutting-edge tech will actually arrive on the production version, but building the Mission E will coincide with 700-million euros ($765 million) in updates to the Porsche factory in Stuttgart-Zuffenhausen. In the coming years, the company will upgrade its engine factory to assemble electric motors. The automaker will also add a new paint shop, assembly plant, and enlarged body shop there.
i just looked at two gt3rs'. a 2014 and a 2016. the 2014 was priced at 350,000. 150k over sticker. the 2016 was priced at 399,000. 200 over.. i sh*t you not.
i just looked at two gt3rs'. a 2014 and a 2016. the 2014 was priced at 350,000. 150k over sticker. the 2016 was priced at 399,000. 200 over.. i sh*t you not.
Yeah that's crazy. You have to really just want one. Both great cars,) but I don't think either justifies those prices performance wise IMO.
Yeah that's crazy. You have to really just want one. Both great cars,) but I don't think either justifies those prices performance wise IMO.
yeah, was funny. walking out of parts into the showroom as i was circling both of them them wantingly, the sales guy turned to me and asked; "any questions?", and i said "yeah, how much over sticker?" ( as i favored the white one ) and he said with without hesitation, "150". he knew i knew, and i said "yep",.. as i took my leave. lol.
i suppose, if you've got it, ya pay it. they were worth sticker for sure, but the 2016 was friggin "prince purple". which was NOT a 399,000.00 color HA.
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