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Old 07-08-2015, 09:30 AM
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Default Hazard Switch?....turn signal problem.

Have a strange difficulty. The hazard lights "stay" blinking. Won't stop. Drained the battery.....haunted?

Further the turn signals do not operate.

Did some diligence on my end before posting and I'm aware the hazards and turn signals operate on the same loop and use the same relay. It's not a fuse and i don't "think" it's the relay.

Strange stuff:

1. if i pull the hazard switch out so that it stops blinking (but not all the way out) the turn signals will work!!!???....weird.

2. so it's "probably" not the relay since everything works but has a mind of their own? i think it's actually the hazard switch.....i think.

let me ask this (hope i can explain well enough):

does everyone's hazard switch engage in such a way that when it's depressed it actually looks "compressed" versus elongated?.....or is it purely electronic in that it's in the same position physically weather its engaged or not?

B/C mine does not look any different when engaged it simply returns to the same physical position (but again that may be how it's supposed to be IDK...any help there?) B/c if it is to be "physically" different when engaged then that is my problem 100%.

appreciate any insight please.

Thanks!!
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isn't the hazard button just a "push" on/off? yes, you said "depressed" so my bad... you've got it. iirc it in fact is in the same position not extended once engaged though i have never really inspected it(?)

but i'm going on a hunch you have a switch issue, if it isn't a wiring issue of course.

there is also a peculiar phenomenon to these which will cause the turn signal to "rapid blink" and not actually work but that has to do with the connections at the bulb needing to be twisted gently back into "full contact" and even the plastic can be fused owing to the proximity to the radiator up front. but the "fix" to that is just opening up the lamp assembly and tweaking the connectors.

then there is the headlamp switch which also goes bad and is not uncommon. sorry if this is misleading, but i am trying to make a point about all manner of high strangeness that will occur if even one of our switches is faulty or on its way out.

i wont even go into what all can happen when your ignition switch goes?! ( 8 dollar audi/vw part ) it's madness, and radios will turn on/off at will. crazy stuff. i'd rule out the switch before anything else and realize much if not all of the foregoing may not help at all. but GL anyway.
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I say bad switch, I would pull switch and clean for laughs to see if it solves problem= but replace either way.
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how does one pull the hazard switch?
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Good question never tried lol. I'm sure its not difficult.
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easy

1. pop out surround

2. button falls out too (surround holds that in)

3. squeeze tabs (black) on both sides of the hazard (white); gently push tabs in with index and thumb of one hand, pliers in other hand grasping and gently pulling the white aspect of the switch.

4. do not pull hard with the pliers if you need to pull hard you are not depressing the tabs sufficiently


if i may....why are you doing this?
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I do not believe he is, just commenting about your situation and wondering about switch removal.
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i thought maybe so....don't go to any trouble for this. i'll sort it...no worries

bought a switch on ebay 23 bucks shipped

cheap hope that works

really odd failure tho....car just started flashing til battery died.....kind of like screaming for attention.... then throwing a fit til dead....ha
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Let us know what you find.
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its incredible what faulty switches can cause in these. yes, to not pulling out my hazard warning button lol
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Originally Posted by Ridin Dirty
does everyone's hazard switch engage in such a way that when it's depressed it actually looks "compressed" versus elongated?.....or is it purely electronic in that it's in the same position physically weather its engaged or not?

B/C mine does not look any different when engaged it simply returns to the same physical position (but again that may be how it's supposed to be IDK...any help there?) B/c if it is to be "physically" different when engaged then that is my problem 100%.

appreciate any insight please.

Thanks!!
The hazard switch on my '02 996 Turbo extends out about 1/8" or so when the hazards are selected "ON". The switch is flush with the surround/dash when the hazards are selected "OFF".

So at least on an '02, there is a physical difference between "ON" and "OFF".
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i just today looked at my hazard button and it does indeed extend when activated per above. who knew.
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Thanks guys. No mine returns to the same position with each push. So 99.9% it's the switch. $23 fix?....fingers crossed. Awaiting delivery.
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that sounds like it isn't "switching" then! you'll now soon enough. GL w it.
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Thats a bargain price I see Porsche oem around 80.


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