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Old 01-27-2015, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Th Dude
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Indeed, after the leisurely run, my "while your in there" added up to an incredible $17,500. However, I went the weld route as I have a talented welder. There was also a long list of goodies that included a 997 cup car PMNA LSD and the super badass 964 lwfw/764pp/GT3RS 4.0l disk clutch set-up.

mine was > $12k
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Originally Posted by 993GT
I'm going to do my neighbour's TT in the Spring, probably...( and my dad's future TT/GT3/GT2...)
Think $2500-3k is fair(for neighbour), including labour to refresh any bits while engine is out.
Rob. If you need a hand I'd love to help and learn on your neighbours car.
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Hey Rod, I try to spread the job out over a few days as it's just a hobby, maybe can arrange to stop by on a day the driveline is out and have a good look around. I'll probably be doing a couple this year...
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Rob. If you need a hand I'd love to help and learn on your neighbours car.
Old 01-27-2015, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevinmacd
coolant does raise the boiling point.
It may raise the boiling point but water adsorbs heat from the engine and gets rid if it in the radiator *better than any antifreeze mixture. Also these systems are under pressure there is no evaporation.
Old 01-28-2015, 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by fly2low
mine was > $12k
Ouch, I know about the 'while I'm in there' fixes. Not sure I'm going to like the bill tho.

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Originally Posted by jumper5836
Imagine all the houses that have plastic pipes for water and sewage all springing leaks when the adhesive life span is up. What a mess that's going to be.
it happened. There was a massive lawsuit. But these are not plastic pipes. In a plastic pipe the adhesive actual melts the plastic and bonds with it on a molecular level. Not an apples to apples argument. Glueing aluminum to aluminum using loctite not very much of a permanent solution. If no issues. Why did mine blow? Strange. I guess I am one in a million. Oh well it's nice to be different.
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Originally Posted by jumper5836
I am in the same boat, my club does require pinning or running water. I run water. I think there's about the same chance that the coolant fitting lets go as a tire blowout. My car is 14 years old and never had it happen to it. I don't really think it's a matter a time thing, they probably in there hard and take a lot of effort to get them off.
i believe your approach is prudent and not in the least bit negligent. for all the fittings that have admittedly failed, there are infinitely more that have not. i dont feel i'm driving a ticking bomb either! not in the least.

it really is a roll of the dice i guess. but the nthsb findings shouldn't be overlooked and in spite of my general distrust of govt study "findings" i think they got this one right. not enough incidents to warrant any action. stuff breaks! could be that simple.
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Why hasn't anybody used some waterfree coolant yet? It has no thermal expansion and builds no pressure.
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Think the problem is you have thermal expansion of the metals. This by itself works against the bonds.
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Originally Posted by "02996ttx50
i believe your approach is prudent and not in the least bit negligent. for all the fittings that have admittedly failed, there are infinitely more that have not. i dont feel i'm driving a ticking bomb either! not in the least.

it really is a roll of the dice i guess. but the nthsb findings shouldn't be overlooked and in spite of my general distrust of govt study "findings" i think they got this one right. not enough incidents to warrant any action. stuff breaks! could be that simple.
I agree, but let's break it down as far as having them pinned for the track.

If one car every year at 10 track days (UCR) blows a hose causing another car to spin into the wall is it worth making guys pin, weld or use water?
Depends which end you are at I guess.

But, having said that I have never slid on 996TT coolant, but have on 996's.
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Originally Posted by Kevinmacd
Think the problem is you have thermal expansion of the metals. This by itself works against the bonds.
agree
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Originally Posted by 911 Rod
I agree, but let's break it down as far as having them pinned for the track.

If one car every year at 10 track days (UCR) blows a hose causing another car to spin into the wall is it worth making guys pin, weld or use water?
Depends which end you are at I guess.

But, having said that I have never slid on 996TT coolant, but have on 996's.
I've hit coolant from 996 gt3's 997tt's, a 996 with blown coolant hose and also one with a cracked over flow tank, 944's. Never a 996tt but imagine it will happen one day. Though hitting water is not the same as coolant. Coolant is very slippery and sticks to the tire for a long time while water basically is a damp spot on track, unnoticable really. Think everyone should run water wetter as there is nothing worse then hitting coolant even if its just a damp spot on the pavement. The only reason I don't remove the awd is for this reason. It's saved my car muliple times but only these times I've run over it.
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Originally Posted by 993GT
pinning is winning!
pretty easy to DIY if you're handy
Replacing the water hoses on top of motor by snaking them through looks like it will be fun for me tomorrow, any advice there to get them on easier? Soap?

I didn't remove my water pump and just pulled the intake manifolds/TB, nothing else.
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A light coat of dish soap works great, silicon sprays can also help and are rubber friendly.
Assuming your are fairly close stripped down to a longblock, the hoses are easy to install

Originally Posted by 911mhawk
Replacing the water hoses on top of motor by snaking them through looks like it will be fun for me tomorrow, any advice there to get them on easier? Soap?

I didn't remove my water pump and just pulled the intake manifolds/TB, nothing else.
Old 02-21-2016, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 993GT
A light coat of dish soap works great, silicon sprays can also help and are rubber friendly.
Assuming your are fairly close stripped down to a longblock, the hoses are easy to install
Hand sanitizer has worked well for me in the past. It doesn't leave a slippery residue on the hose, and evaporates quickly. I use it on tight inter cooler hoses and other fittings


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