kalyan

I posted this on 996 Forum as well.

Super excited!! I got a PPI done on the car (996TT) and here are the results. I want your opinions on this. I think I am going to make an offer and buy this car! The mechanic says no Range 2 over revs. Is that even possible? I have not spoken to him yet since he sent me the report via email. I will call and chat with him a bit more and make an offer tomorrow on the car.

PPI Results:
Compression test and leak down are great 225 and less than 4% across the board.
Brakes 90% Ft /Rr ...Rotors rusted from sitting undriven (need replaced).
No signs of coolant leaks frt to rear.
Water pump looks Original and unmodified (most pump tubes that come loose are in a racing mode where they are very hot).
No oil leaks from engine or trans.
Lower side of engine is dirty from dirt sticking to cosmolene .
Has seepage from the Hydro pump quick disconnect lines(normal) and again at the slave cyl.quick disconnect line.
Has seepage at threaded connection at clutch feed line under floor pan (not normal) but is seepage not leakage, may just need to be tightened.
19" Champion wheels.
Tires have good tread but are dated '07 frt and '10 rear, frts are cracking from age (need replaced).
Left rear wheel as curb rash @ 1/2 way around (not terrible) but there.

Ignition system
Spark plugs look fairly new (Bosch Super) coils look OK.
All lights working.
Both frt side markers are smoke colored ( may not pass inspection?)
Left rear tail light has small chip out of lower inner edge @ 1/4" sq.
Head lights are starting to show age w/sand blasting from road, ( could be buffed out) .
Folding top works well and is in good condition.
When roof is down you can see a noticeable difference in the color (faded) of the fabric @ roll bar hoop area.
Two very small scratches on rt side window trim @convert top. Both outer rocker covers are missing a few clips so not fitting as tight as possible.
There is an 8" scratch in the clear coat( not deep) on the RR 1/4 panel ( I think can be buffed out).
A few 1/16" paint chips but NO dings or dents.(don't know why but they haven't detailed car) could show much better if detailed.???
Has a few scuff marks on the backs of the frt seats, like a brief case was drug over them (hard backed not fabric).
Left frt seat has some wear signs on outer bolster area.
Has nice Lloyd floor mats.
No leaks from rear wing struts.
Rt tail pipe tip is curb scratched from the bottom (cant see from top) Muffler and Cats are aftermarket.
Tips are OEM.
Muffler "AWE" Cats are HJS Tuning. ECU is chipped and engine has 1495 hours on it, 49012 miles. Found no over revs.

CEL is off but had 3 DTC's stored.....
#1 Boost Pressure over limit( this would be from chipping)
#2 O2, B2 and
#3 random misfire and
#4 misfire on cyl. #4
These codes are old and again no light on at this time.

Alternator and battery are both new.
Fuel vent valve issue was repaired and we added fuel to retest.
Trans and clutch feel ok, and the clutch was replaced when the current owner purchased the car a few years ago. The clutch is standard OEM performance which is a little lacking on a chipped DME .

Over all the car looks very good with exception of brake rotors and tires. I think I'd have a pro detail and wax it , install new front tires at a minimum and all new brake rotors. Thanks and Good Luck. Its a sharp looking ride!
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Look forward for your inputs!

Cheers,
-K

"02996ttx50

seems it's been more taken care of than not and it sounds great! get the car and join the club. GL.

turbo4 me

No Type I or II overrevs? None? In a heavily modded car-

That is very odd-

Is the mechanic connected with the current owner?

GL

kalyan

That's what surprised me. The car has AWE tuning exhaust and GIAC tune. It also has maintenance records from 2010.

I will call the mechanic (well known in PCA group and recommended by rennlisters) and talk to him about it. I will ask him about the exact readings on Type 1 and 2 readings.
The previous owner has had serviced the car at this shop (new clutch, slave cylinder, etc) but has since sold the car to a dealer.

What is this here? Something to be concerned?
"Has seepage at threaded connection at clutch feed line under floor pan (not normal) but is seepage not leakage, may just need to be tightened."

leftlane

What year/miles/price?

Kevinmacd

The rotors on these cars rust up fast, before replacing I would remove the wheel use a fine sandpaper on them and then drive it. See how they work out. The rotors rust up after a car wash if you just let it sit.

fly2low

I don't know how it is done, but have been told by very reliable sources that the memory holding the rev info can be flushed, but along with that info the engine hours also gets flushed. Does the engine hour info come close to matching the miles on the speedo? Mileage = engine hours x avg mph.
An avg mph can be from mid 20s to mid 40s depending on freeway vs street useage

otherwise sounds OK

agree about the rotors. steel wool or lightly sand before replacing

Kevin

Go to the GT3 forums and read about the OverRev concerns. Zero type 1's on a tuned car, and Zero type 2's... Sounds like the ECU got a hair cut, I mean a buzz cut..

turbo4 me

Kal,

I would be leery of a car with a reloaded ECU-

When you buy a modded car, you may be buying a rocket or you may be buying someone else's headache.

There are lots of good examples out there, take your time and buy a good one-

kalyan

It is a 04 Cab, 6-speed manual with 49012 miles.

Fly2low: Good point. So, with engine hours of 1495, the avg mph comes to about 33 mph. That does not look like the rev's have been erased.
Kevin: Calling the mechanic right now to find out the exact numbers.

kalyan

Okay. Got off the phone and got the numbers.

Range 1 - 15635 - 1495.5
Range 2 - 1366 - 1488.4

The mechanic thinks the guy who dropped off the car at the shop must have hit the rev limiter yesterday morning. Damn sales people!

turbo4 me

Frankly that is much more believeable than a modded car never hitting the rev limiter, so the credibility of the mechanic/ prior owner goes up a notch.

I don't think those are bad numbers, you might get some debate on that. The type IIs are a little high but the tune may have raised the rev limiter-

"02996ttx50

that number of type twos reads as "inconsequential" barring some other obvious signs of misuse. like i said.

the car sounds fine.. buy it and have fun fixing the little stuff. though i never have heard of a scrubbed ecu before ?! THAT i WOULD avoid. all else is chicken little sh*t.

kalyan

Thanks guys! I am buying it. 6 months of no p-car is killing me. LOL. Yeah, I can drive wife's pig, but i miss my top-down fun.

Currently looking for enclosed car carriers.

"02996ttx50

thats' REAL easy to do and i would venture the majority of recorded overrevs happen while cars are being test driven on used car lots...eg sales managers take em home.

not that owners dont peg the limiter lol. we just do it less often ( maybe ).

any "recent" type 2;s are ALWAYS people test thrashing the cars