powdrhound

No. They are just designed to work at a much higher operating temperature.

DaveCarrera4

Exactly, less fade at high temp. So this doesn't help the heat buildup, actually makes it worse. I'm surprised none of the entrepreneurs out there haven't made knock offs of the GT2 or 3 cooling ducts...similar to the multitude of front air dams available on eBay.

hf1

I thought your problem was the melted wear sensors -- not temperature. OEM pads (with wear sensors) were designed for the street (and street temps). Track pads can take track temps without melting and without fade. Of course, if this (plus track brake fluid) also fails the next step would be to seek better cooling solutions (ducts, grilles, hoses, etc.). For DE, most 911s are just fine with only track pads, rotors, and fluid. They're Porsches after all.

993GT

I've been thinking about it...

DaveCarrera4

? Yes temperature, yes melted wear sensors. Need to consider mild track pads.

IrocMan

Hi folks,
Hijacking the thread for a quick poll:
Did you buy your TT with the intend of tracking it or did this happen later?
I love the TT and am willing to track my next 911 3-4 times a year.
Should I go with a GT3 instead? I'm afraid that to develop a TT for track would take time and money.

Thanks

Martin S.

"I'm afraid that to develop a TT for track would take time and money."..you are so right here. Here is the biggest back, kerb weight, at about 3,487 Lbs***…I don't believe this includes the driver.

Kerb weight of the GT3 is 3,124*** a 363 Lb delta, but about the same HP. The Turbo will be harder on brakes and tires, once again weight, weight, weight.

The Turbo, according to some, needs to have at least these mods added to make it above average track worthy.
1. Bigger springs
2. Aftermarket suspension
3. Bigger sway bars
4. Rear camber "dog bones"
5. Front camber plates
6. Brake cooling scoops
7. Race seats

Not the case with the GT3, it's ready to go to the track. However, if you just want to have some fine, and drive a fantastically smooth car on the street, with rocket ship performance, the Turbo is the ticket.

If you think you may retrograde into a track junkie, and are not that concerned about your street ride, the Turbo is the best bet,

***Porsche Data Book, Marc Bongers, Haynes Publishing, 2006

IrocMan

My only real concern with the GT3 is no rear seats, which I need. Also the look of the turbo, I'd miss the WB style with the GT3.

Why has life to be so hard ?!

rmc1148

Get a GT2.

DaveCarrera4

The turbo is the best combo for street track financially, unless you are trying to win a trophy at the DE events and money is no object.

Also...I just picked up used OEM GT3 front air scoops on eBay for $25. Another awesome cheap mod for track day. Next are street/track pads.

993GT

find a TT with PCCB(for the 350/350mm and calipers) and X50 package, it'll best meet your needs(of rear seats) IMO.

jbossolo

02' X50 here. I track it regularly. Pagids, GT2 front ducts, GT3 rear ducts, Castrol SRF fluid (liquid gold!), Girodisc set (slotted) all around. No issues with braking, EVER.

Carlo_Carrera

I bought my TT specifically for combo street and track use. I have no trouble keeping pace in my run group (black) and the only mods I did were adjustable sway bars, front aero lip, track pads/fluid and r888 tires.

You do not need to do the laundry list of mods Martin is talking about unless you want to go full hard core.

DaveCarrera4

+1

etchhead

Flash and exhaust give it a bit more zoom as well. Loved my TT for the track- excellent power delivery!