1999Aero911

There was no frame damage, the car drives straight and handles well. The car runs great and could be driven on a 1000 mile trip home. The only negative part of no service records is no knowledge of IMS bearing being replaced. But with checking the filter at oil change (and finding no metal whatsoever) and the fact that 99s have a dual row IMS, I was able to sleep fine at night.

Slakker

Or the RMS, or the Clutch, or the AOS, or the Water pump, or the type of oil that's been used in it, or the oil change intervals. One would need to budget $4-5k just to ensure getting everything up to date if they planned on putting more miles on it than you have. Checking the filter is always a good idea but dropping the pan and getting a UOA will tell you a whole lot more.

1999Aero911

Except this car has none of those issues. No oil leaks, clutch works fine, no AOS issue, no coolant leaks, no overheating, etc. Besides the fact that all those items would be less than $1500 in parts if you did the work yourself, but paying 4-5k because a car "might" have an issue with one of these items "sometime in the future" is your prerogative. Also all the items listed have "symptoms" before they actually completely fail.

Slakker

Wow. You are obviously an expert. I'm surprised you are even selling if you have that much knowledge. Has your auction hit $30k yet?

alpine003

Actually looking at a different pic in the copart link, the seat does look a bit too worn for the mileage. The seats might've been swapped in by some prevous owner maybe from a higher mileage car. Hard to say unless you look at the option sticker under the hood if it's original to the car. Still I don't think it's a deal breaker as it can easily be refurbished IMO.

Boy, tough crowd here. As for frame damage, you might wanna show at least a print out of the alignment if you have one to show that everything lines up to spec.

The Porsche crowd can be a very tough crowd to sell to, especially the 996 as you're finding out. GLWS

gnat

1) Post car with history questions.
2) Get your knickers twisted about people talking about the car.
3) ???
4) Profit!

1999Aero911

More like
1) Be completely honest and forthright about the history of the car.
2) Get rightfully annoyed at people bad mouthing the car with no first hand knowledge of it and never seeing it in person.
3) ???
4) Keep car if it doesn't sell and put an LS in it just to **** off the purists.


Thanks for the expert compliment. Not sure of any correlation between knowledge and not selling a car, though. And the 30k comment makes no sense whatsoever.

gnat

No one has implied you haven't been honest about it's history or lack thereof.

What some of us are taking issue with you on is your attitude about it all as shown in your second bullet.

We do know these cars and the purpose of this thread is for us to bring to light interesting cars for people that are in the market but to also make note of things that someone inexperienced with the 996 might overlook while blinded by the idea of a $15k 911.

We have also helped sellers out with our reviews by giving them feed back from a buyer's perspective which has allowed them to tweak and improve their ads for better effect.

Rather than take advantage of our knowledge and experience, however, you decided to get bent out of shape and throw a tantrum about how we aren't being nice to your car.

Also not sure why you think an LS swap is some kind of insult around here. There really isn't any such thing as a 996 "purist" and the LS swap has been done a few times (documented) already. In fact it is often a suggested option when someone blows their M96 and is looking into their options to move forward.

Longtimelurker

Didn't know this one was going towards so much excitement! I will admit my mistake, mis-worded my question as I wanted the photos of the damage and can't English apparently. I still think the rust question is fair, given a lot of places do shoddy repair/hide things during a salvage repair and that Iowa isn't exactly an entirely temperate dry state, but most buyers wouldn't ask that. I asked for the additional photo of the rear exhaust from a lower angle because I wanted to see the alignment of the exhaust tips, which can be a good indicator of collision impact/repair if the exhaust is cockeyed.

GLWS, $15K was too high for me but if it comes down a bit we're getting closer to what I think is reasonable.

gnat

Not sure what you are expecting to get for less than $15k in a 996. Anything that low is going to have various issues that will need to be sorted out and probably be in the 3-10k range.

Unless you are going to DIY it all and want to get stuck in and really learn the car, spending the money up front for a better example will make for a better experience.

There are things to look at closely on this car, but $15k is cheap for it. I'll be surprised if it can't pull $18k.

1999Aero911

I personally think the value is in the 17k to 17.5k range, especially with it's options and add-ons. I put it up at 15k to entice buyers.

It is worth at least 15k to me and I will not be selling it for ANY less. Honestly I will be sad to see it go since it is one of the nicest Porsches in the state and in person it looks like a exotic car with the Aero kit and the 19" wheels. It also sounds like an exotic due to the Fister D mufflers. It is the nicest car I have EVER seen at this price point, and that doesn't even factor in the low miles.

People expecting a perfect car for the price (compared to the 90k new in 1999) have unreasonable expectations.

The car could be so many things: a daily driver, a weekend car, a track car, or an autocross car. It's a 4th car for me, and as such, doesn't get driven enough, which is why I put it up for sale.

gnat

Yeah at $15k it is tempting to consider as 4th car and 2nd 996 to turn into a track car. Space and time are my issues though so what this car should sell for (17-18k) take it out of the "I know I shouldn't, but ..." category of interest for me.

5CHN3LL

What's the symptom of an upcoming coolant leak? This would be helpful to know.

Also, the symptoms for pending oil leaks. Thx.

Slakker

Symptom of intermix? And yes, it less expensive to do it yourself but unless you are a certified IMS installer you could potentially do more damage then good.

Cutting open the filter is a good diagnostic tool but it is not proof that the engine is healthy. Especially if you've owned it what, less than 1000 miles?

Here's the bottom line, if you want to advertise your car for sale, join Rennlist and advertise it in the classifieds. If you want to be challenged on seemingly inaccurate claims, post it in the 996 technical forum. Good luck.

1999Aero911

If there is no present coolant leak or oil leak, how is there a problem with a car?

Maybe you should replace the engine, transmission, etc with new when a used car is purchased, since at some point in the future there might be an issue with one of them.