Capt. Obvious

^^^ That would be fun as well. But more realistically, what about the 996 GT3 engine? Anyone know how easy that swap would be? At first glance, it seems like it could be as easy as swapping the engine harness and ECU, bolting the engine in and then maybe a little tweaking with Durametric to get everything running right?

Marks951

At $30K you could just buy another 996 and start over. If one did the labor themselves it would be more realistic. Adding the price one paid for their current 996 and the cost of a conversion one could probably have a 996TT or maybe even a GT3.

I have to admit, the LS motor in a 996 would be fast. A basic LS1 has 305 hp, one could get the 6.0 liter LS motor and easily have 500 hp with a cam and intake and heads that wouldn't even be hard on the motor. Imagine 500rwhp in a 3,000 pound car that still has A/C.

alpine003

I agree and for that amount, I would rather sell my existing car and find a used TT or GT3 and call it a day.

However, I would really like to see someone that has an LS conversion take it around the track. The rear engine Porsches are already relatively tricky to drive fast compared with other cars. I can only imagine all the low end torque coupled with the higher center of gravity of a V8 motor, might make things even trickier for everyone except the pro's. Of course one will not have the option of PASM on a V8 conversion either.

Oldskewl

I dont understand this at all. If you are going through all this work why not op for for something with some more power?

Whats the output on that motor? 200hp? seems like a lot of work for a slow 993.

stab1991

the 12v VR6 is only about 175 hp or so. Am I missing something?

Capt. Obvious

The VR6 is damn near invincible, even when boosted. I'm betting once he gets the car running properly with the new motor it won't be long until a turbo is slapped on it. 400+ horsepower from those motors is easy and not terribly expensive.

wyovino

Seems crazy. I thought the whole purpose of this option was that it could be had for much less than a Porsche replacement.

alpine003

That's what I was thinking.

In regard to turbocharging a VR6, I'm trying to picture where you would be able to put the turbo/intercooler and run the piping on that setup within the cramped confines, not to mention routing the coolant lines to the engine.

RF5BPilot

I would bet that the $30k installed indicates that there's a significant amount of hand-work/modifications that they're not telling you about.

alpine003

Here's a link where a guy is still ironing things out after working on it for 2 years if that's any indication: http://ls1tech.com/forums/conversion...onversion.html

Mickey356

I think it goes without saying, for $30K the powerplant possiblities are almost endless. Hell, you can buy a lot of complete CARS that are 400+ hp for $30K. Why anyone would waste their money on a GM motor in a Porsche is beyond me, but it's America, have at it if you want.
Personally, if I was gonna drop $30K into an engine for my 996 I'd be looking at a Porsche engine and nothing else. No doubt you can get plenty more HP, and probably reliability, from well known porsche engine builders out there.

Marc Gelefsky

I don't think you can compare, This guy does not seem to have the resources of Renegade who have been doing this stuff for a long time.
Not the mention the guy in the middle east started off with a basket case Turbo!

alpine003

The point I was trying to make was that this is not straightforward and it looks like some amount of tinkering and modifications are needed like RF5BPilot was referring to.

Renegade has been doing it for awhile now so naturally they would have all the kinks worked out but still doesn't mean that it's any less tedious of a process.

If Renegade is charging that much, I would think part of it would be the fact that it is quite a process with a lot of things needing to be done as witnessed by some first timers trying to have a go at it.