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Old 04-08-2008, 12:02 PM
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Question ECU Question, how often does it check for problems?

Hypothetical question: Let’s say my MAF is dead or dying, and I get a cel to warn me about it. I am lazy so I unhook the battery to reset the cel. How long does it take for the ecu to perform another test to see the MAF is bad and throw another cel? Is there a set time or mileage that the ecu waits to perform another “systems check” or would it be instantaneous? How or when does the ecu know when to issue a cel for a minor issue? Just curious.

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When using my durametric tester it just takes a 20-30 sec to throw another CEL after resetting the CELL, but if the problem part is marginal it may take it alittle longer. I have not seen a marginal MAF it either works or does not.
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Originally Posted by Mother
When using my durametric tester it just takes a 20-30 sec to throw another CEL after resetting the CELL, but if the problem part is marginal it may take it alittle longer. I have not seen a marginal MAF it either works or does not.
How do you like the Durametric software? I looked at their website and it looks quite in depth. Which package did you go with?
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The original MAF on my car was marginal. It began tripping P1123 codes in certain driving patterns (e.g., interstate cruise followed by a stop on an exit ramp) and then started adding P1125 to this code, and then began generating more frequent instances of both those codes in a wider variety of driving patterns. Replacing the MAF solved the problem.

To the OP's question: the DME is constantly evaluating everything it sees and will generate a code if something is out of spec.
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"how often does it check for problems?"
Constantly - depending on the conditions it sets a pending code or sets a code and turns on the CEL.
Not all fault codes turn on a CEL.
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What are the consequences of having a bad MAF?
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Originally Posted by imdrew12
What are the consequences of having a bad MAF?
Why don't you just share with the forum what your problem is instead of speaking in hypotheticals, going about it in a rather circuitous manner? This may help you find a quicker resolution to the problem you're having with the car.
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Originally Posted by Benjamin Choi
Why don't you just share with the forum what your problem is instead of speaking in hypotheticals, going about it in a rather circuitous manner? This may help you find a quicker resolution to the problem you're having with the car.
I am not having issues. I am thinking about buying a K&N filter(not the CAI) and want to be prepared encase it breaks the MAF due to over oiling. I have read so much contradicting info on this filter and the only ECU experience I have is on my Subaru. So to gain some knowledge on the Porsche ECU and to avoid posting another "CAI Thread" I posted this thread. Thanks for your concern.
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Knowing that even the K&N intake doesn't do much for power and there's much discussion around the pains of oiling it (over/under), why in the hell would you go for the aftermarket filter when there's the good OEM filter available?
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Originally Posted by Benjamin Choi
Knowing that even the K&N intake doesn't do much for power and there's much discussion around the pains of oiling it (over/under), why in the hell would you go for the aftermarket filter when there's the good OEM filter available?
If you're not going to address the questions I posted, why are you responding to this thread?
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Because I can and the question I'm asking of you certainly is related to the original question. Having a bad day?
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Sorry for the digression, back to the original question. What are the consequences/symptoms of having a bad MAF? What exactly does the MAF do? I mean I know it measures the amount of air entering the engine and the ecu uses that info to change the fuel mixture. What else does the car rely on the MAF for?

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Originally Posted by imdrew12
Sorry for the digression, back to the original question. What are the consequences/symptoms of having a bad MAF? What exactly does the MAF do? I mean I know it measures the amount of air entering the engine and the ecu uses that info to change the fuel mixture. What else does the car rely on the MAF for?
Air mass and intake charge temperature are the only things the MAF measures. When either of those things are not properly measured, the engine will not run correctly. You may notice hard starting, surging under partial or full throttle, poor performance, rough or erratic idle, stalling, or other symptoms, depending on the failure mode.
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Originally Posted by Doug Donsbach
Air mass and intake charge temperature are the only things the MAF measures. When either of those things are not properly measured, the engine will not run correctly. You may notice hard starting, surging under partial or full throttle, poor performance, rough or erratic idle, stalling, or other symptoms, depending on the failure mode.
....depending on failure mode? I am not sure I follow. The MAF can have more than one failure point? Thanks for the reply by the way.

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