C.J. Ichiban

ROFL

Gbos1

964s are not outstripping the prices on 993s. While the 964s have picked up in value the 993s are gaining ground on 964 prices. This is coming from several reliable collector sources with hard sales.

axl911

Hahaha!!! I was serious though. If I moved to a fairer weather city and if my old knees give out even more, I would get a tip convertible. But it gotta have the factory wood interior. Just love those wood panels! It would be the ultimate good weather scenic driving machine.

Oh..and it would be silver with a blue or black interior. Now, who got the pic to show what I'm talking about?

axl911

Pichu

I'm only checking the classifieds here, Pelican and a few other sites. 993's are not selling but 964's are. I don't have an inside track, just what's actually visible to everyone else.

C.J. Ichiban

964s are selling because they are 40-60k vs 80-160k.

993 is a better car to drive, but the 964 looks like the newest version of the "original"


I like both, have had both.

chamilka

The 993 prices are easy to gauge than 964. 964 prices do not have a consistent pattern. If you get a chance do search on cars.com. As of today there are 15 964 (both coupes and Cabs, excluding RS America trim):
cheapest one is : 1990 Porsche 911 Carrera 2, coupe, Black, 45000 miles, $34,999
most expensive one: 1993 Porsche 911 Carrera 2, coupe, Blue, 78000 miles, $89,900

chamilka

So going back to Triptonic aspect, I think the conclusion is that at this present time, Triptonic 993 car have less market than the stick and I see that being reflected in prices.
Thanks all

vincer77

I think that the 911 collector market considers the racing heritage of the model important. Since 911 coupes were used for racing, they are the ones that people want. Looking at 356 cars, many of those race cars were topless cars and the cabs are probably more valuable than the coupes - I have not confirmed this but is what I remenber. That's my .02.

I am just happy that being an open car aficionado I can partake in the hobby at a discount!

m635dude

I think cabs will be on the upswing in the future. If you look at how car collectors use their "investments", its not at the race track. It's not driving around back roads at 10/10ths. They are looking to take them out occasionally and just enjoy a nice and easy drive. Sure there are people who race XKE's and Alfas, but many just cruise around.

Being that less cabs were made, cabs aren't held back by the WB NB comparison because if you want a cab it has to be a NB, they haven't been as sought after meaning that there are fewer nice well cared for examples, and that being a convertible means that more of the interiors are thrashed. All of these things imo lead to higher values down the road for cabs. Now people who usually own cabs usually keep them well stored and only used for nice sunny days, compared to coupes which are often more used, so that levels out the field somewhat.

Tiptronics will ALWAYS bring less money. That said though, if these cars make it to the $100-200k mark in say 10 years, the cost of switching from an auto to manual will be small in comparison and will keep the tips within a somewhat similar price range.

Take away- the best investment car for you is the one that you will enjoy the most. Having just purchased a cab for the same price as I was offered a decent c4s 6mt for, I chose the cab because it was what I wanted and what I knew I would enjoy more.

993Maineiac

This. If you are buying a car as an investment watch out. Also limiting yourself, as the OP is, to Craigslist, AOL, etc probably will not get a pristine collectable car.

myflat6

^^there were more cabs produced for the U.S. Market than NB coupes.

Gbos1

WB C2S & C4S, Turbo, Turbo S, RS, GT, GT2 993s will always command high premiums with low mileage / service history simply put. Better investment if that is what you want. But buy what you like and enjoy it.

gonzilla

Yes. You're correct. Tip $ < manual $.

Are you looking to buy for investment purposes, or do you simply prefer tip over manual?