Drisump

Sorry Buddy but it's quite unanimous in this 993 forum that we not only disagree with your point but fail to understand your train of thought. I understand a well chosen 996 is a great deal but coming from a perspective of a guy that has put quite a few miles on both, I have to say most 993's are a quite a bit more engaging drive. Why do you think the market is where it is? Despite
Porsche making quite a few of them, they have achieved an almost "cult" following. The "last air-cooled" has attracted some, less electronic nannies compared to the newer models has attracted others and still others have been attracted to the size and proportions of them vs the water-pumpers. Me, I like all those things. Don't get me wrong, if I could use a 911 daily I would strongly consider a 996/7. Cheers

RodKnock

I'm still trying to understand the OP. Can someone explain to me how a 997 is a "new" 993? The 997 is humongous size-wise compared to a 993 and it's obviously water-cooled. An evolution in the classic 911 shape too.

And no Johnny Irish, I'm not tense or upset at all. Just thinking your OP was maybe sarcasm?

nile13

Before going further on this quest, please complete the following sentence: "OP is an attention ________".

nile13

BTW, I was seriously considering a 996 cab or a 997 cab as a daily driver in FL after owning a pair of 993 cabs as daily drivers in MA.

996 can be had for $15K or so, making it cheap and leaving "the other $25K" for repairs and hassles. 997 would be a decent compromise overall. though about $20K more expensive but with fewer hassles. Another 993 was also a consideration but I decided that since I've promised myself easy living in Miami... I ended up buying another Miata. That NC been a daily driver for 2 years with an occasional autocross.

They are all a compromise. Including 993s. My current 993 happens to be yellow, which happens to put a smile on my face once in a while on a sunny day with a roof down (when it's not exasperating to live with). I don't see a grey 996 causing any emotions, period, but that's just me.

Dan V

Miami? Seriously??

Rubik

LOL. My buying a Macan is a testament that I don't care if values appreciate and care more about driving enjoyment and usability. The fact is, it's quicker, more nimble, and more practical for a family of four than any stock C2 993. (Oh lighten up!)

Anyway, I'm not here to **** in your yard. I do appreciate the 993, but I just can't justify its cost and that's a personal choice. Just like its a personal choice for you guys to buy and own it.

BTW, I didn't mean that there is no market for 993s, and the 996 market is booming. What I meant was if you want to sell it at the price you want, it will take a special buyer.; let's be honest with ourselves. And no I don't think the 993 is any more special than the BMW 2002, or the E30 M3. They're all great cars. Would I drop $25K on an E30 M3? Absolutely not.

nile13

Miami Beach, actually, why?

nile13

I'm aware of all these qualities, who's arguing them?

Quite honestly, I would not be able to justify a 993 today either (nor a new Macan for that matter). Afford to buy and own - yes, but justify - no. However, I understand people who can justify them. Especially if they are not wearing Rolexes while trying to monotonously prove to '73 RSR owners that their 993 is practically _the_ '73 RSR and would costs about the same in the nearest future. Oh, BTW, longhood RSR owners wear old Heuer Monacos


Interesting that you compare 993 to an M30. M30 in decent shape advertised for $25K will have a line of people from one coast to the other with seller not likely to survive the barrage of emails and calls. A 996 for $10K not nearly likely to elicit the same response. And that't an important point For whatever reason (that I, personally, fail to understand), it is significantly easier to sell an expensive 993 today than a cheap 996, for example. Or a 914 (!) is easier to sell for about the same money as older Boxster, which is actually an excellent car in it's own right, and I'm being dead serious about this.

But that's the fact of life today. And it boils down to increased demand and fairly low supply. It has nothing, nothing to do with absolute price, impracticality or any other reason. It's just that demand for a 993, any 993, today seriously exceeds supply. And supply for 996 severely exceeds demand. Thus, regardless of anything else, pretty much any 993 is an easy sell while pretty much any 996 is not.

Dan V

I was born and raised a bit north of there: Ft Lauderdale. Just not quite grasping the appeal of Dade county, or S FLA in general. I'm sincerely interested in learning.

pirahna

You can get a good Cuban coffee there, can't get that in the bay area. Can't think of much else though.

nile13

Well, let's see here. I'm 47. That's 47 winters full of snow. Lots and lots of snow. Old country, then Rochester, NY, then Boston. Are you beginning to see the appeal now? Boston had 103" of snow this past winter. I watched it on TV, including a CNN weather person camped in front of our Boston digs for most of February. It was a pleasure to watch snow on TV, I wouldn't lie.

The appeal, of course, is winter weather. GF likes living on the beach. I like excellent variety of food. Having said that, I'd not chose to live there year around. It's like a 5-6 months long vacation for us. Driving a convertible in the middle of February somehow makes me smile. Not sure why.

PS. I do clearly understand your sentiment, though. The SoFla can be downright weird and the number of certified douchebags per square mile is simply stunning. It's a precarious balance but we're OK with it so far.

nile13

Eh, I make my own cubano

What you can get there is fresh ceviche, good flank steak (chimichuri), good cubano and medianoche sandwiches, pargo entero, decent mojitos. Stuff I certainly miss in Boston. Or anywhere else, for that matter. Oh, and sun

PS. Anthony Bourdain got a decent documentary out of Miami. Though his affinity for Club Duece...

Rubik

....Good beaches, water you can actually get in and not freeze your nuts off, and plenty of T & A.

Cemoto

You sir, need a week of broadslideing a snowmobile running at 11k rpm, then you will appreciate the snow a whole lot more. Ideal operating temps are 5 to 15 above.

We all wish (here) for a mild winter in MA and a "dumped on" winter in Maine.

Two weeks in the Caribbean late Jan/early Feb cures a lot of winter blues and gets me over the hump. . .
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5CHN3LL

Not sure how Johnny Irish wound up here after buying a 997, but enjoy the semi-coherent rambling and photos of trappings from (obviously better) days gone by...

At least he hasn't worked in a reference to his most recent Amazon "book."

Enjoy! He's all (for reasons I still can't fathom) yours.