nr1416

Sweet! excited to hear about your driving impressions and to see more pics. A big CONGRATS!!

tp81

Here are a few more pictures.







In all honesty the car lived up to all my expectations, far more mechanical and visceral experience than I had expected. Very honest and efficient car, I loved every minute of the test drive.

As part of the sale there are a few issues to tidy up, the car is now with the official UK Singer mechanic who knows these cars inside out. LSD plates to be changed and as part of the deal the gearbox and engine are being split and tolerances checked. There was a slight noise on the test drive so this was agreed, while this is being done I am going to take the opportunity to have a few cosmetic / mechanical things sorted....new pulleys, belts and anything else that needs done.

Can't wait to get my hands on it.

Carlos993

Congratulations, beautiful car! I agree completely on the 993 RS driving experience, and the directness and honesty of, and in, the car.

APEXHNTR

We had the engine out of ours and put in a dual mass (stock for M002) flywheel. No regrets… slower revs but offset by the smoothness and easy around town driving. The 3.8 engine has loads of torque. You can drive off from (quiet) idle RPMs and not stall the car. During drives in the mountains I rarely go past 5500…the car pulls smoothly and evenly. Some cars beg you to hit the rev limiter in every gear but the 993RS is not one of them IMHO. The driving experience is about how poised the car feels and the sum total of the sensory inputs. In stock form the 993RS is the best air/oil cooled 911 (not track) I have ever experienced. Every drive seems better than the last.

With turbos it seems the opposite is true. The first drives are the best and over time they just feel more predictable and less special…or you want more boost. The added weight and complexity of the turbo are not needed on curvy technical mountain passes. The turbos are brilliant on the autobahn no doubt…in fact the 993RS would not impress at all on the autobahn.

The 993RS is in it's glory were handling trumps raw power. Porsche has had many years to improve upon the RS…. so your 993RS represents an air/oil cooled final milestone. Congratulations, you have a rare and spectacular piece of Porsche history.

nr1416

Looking good! any Interior shots?

teej

I own a tribute rs, it's been well documented here on rennlist. It was the first 993 I drove and since I've had it I've drvien a few "sorted" 993s and now can appreciate the difference.

I've been pining over a real RS, but value and registration in California is a real issue here in California. Maybe when the market corrects and I get closer to the 25 year exemption the hopes for a real RS get better. I'd park it and keep the tribute car for the daily runs.

clubsport1

Market corrects and they get closer to the 25 year exemption?

Surely that last factor would increase demand?

What is interesting is that these cars are now owned globally.

The cycle of economic strength takes them to Hong Kong and Japan and back to the UK or mainland Europe when the currency is favourable.

We have yet to see much interest from the Brics as yet? I think they like newer cars?

A correction after Zirp is reversed is inevitable, but there are a lot of richer people in the world who may not have to sell from their collections.

At the end of the day the 993 is last of the aircooled RS and the RS that was produced in the smallest numbers, as long as someone has money in the world and we are allowed to drive cars, there should be decent interest in them.
I really do think we are unlikely to ever see them as "cheap" again?

tp81

Teej, can you post a link to your car. I continue to enjoy your photography skills. I am over in California this July, going to La Jolla. Are you able to recommend some car garages or cars and coffee meets. The last time I was over your side I stopped in at European collectibles, some lovely stock.

Thanks

Tom

teej

@clubsport : everything has a cycle. Probably not as low value as they were but also not a continued rise from where they are now. Take a look around and look at some of the crazy expectation high mileage owners have for their cars - they are in for a correction. It's happened in many specific car models already where the quick run up makes every owner think theirs is worth as much, then there is a rush to sell at those high prices and the mediocre or high mile cars sit unsold.

Also with the 25yr point, it also increases "supply" - I can then buy easily from an owner anywhere.

teej

Hi Tom

Here's a link to some dealers, no affiliation, it's hard to beat europeancollectibles if your drug of choice is vintage porsche, I'm sure others will know other good spots as I am less familiar with the deep south socal:

Costa Mesa:
http://www.legendaryclassiccenter.com
http://early911specialist.com
http://www.truspeedmotorcars.com

La jolla:
http://www.symbolicmotorcars.com
http://www.sportscarcompany.com

As for my car, I don't have much on my iPad, I'm on the road now, but here's a iphone tease pic. More random shots on my Instagram feed: photosbyteej or if you want to just see on the web: http://instagram.com/photosbyteej

tp81

Thanks.

clubsport1

Increases supply?

The owners in the rest of the world are unlikely to flood the US markets with RS in 5 years time, just because it is easier to for you to bring them into the country.... Unless of course you have the best bid!

You need to check the number of actual, not replica or tribute cars Porsche physically made in 1995-6.
The supply is definitive and due to cars being raced, written off in accidents, there are likely to be less cars left that actually left the factory.

The specific value doesn't make much odds to me, it is possibly worth 7+ times what I paid for it, I didn't sell it when it doubled or quadrupled in value, it's still my favourite Porsche to drive.

I know quite a few good cars that have been bought by owners in the last few years, some recently, these people will still be able to eat as and when interest rates rise.

Some nice photos on your instagram, cheers!

tp81

Some opinions please.

I am considering putting the Clubsport spoiler package onto the car and keeping the std aero package in the garage to change over at different times.

I love the look of the CS spoiler looking down the car from the front, never sure from the side profile. It looks out of place but yet looks perfectly in balance from the rear view.

The car has a CS front with the car, this had been put on at some point in its life so is coming as part of the deal. I have the option to but a carbon rear copy at a reasonable price.

Looking at spending more money before I even have the car!

teej

Owners don't need to flood the US, but the smart sellers will be the ones to do it first, to as you say, take advantage of the increased demand. But there is a corresponding flip side of "increased supply" from the vantage point of the U.S. buyer. As a U.S. buyer today I have few choices of what to buy because the number of RS in the US is very limited and most buyers do not want to deal with the importation cost and hassle. If I owned an RS in the US now I would expect it to trade higher than the global price. So when we get closer to the 25 year threshold things get easier for the U.S. buyer. "Increased supply" and the price moves to the global price.

Now back to the original topic of the driving experience. The 993 rs experience is a drug. Hearing the engine wind up to high revs is intoxicating. It has lead me to keep an eye out for the right real RS wherever it maybe, and park it next to my tribute and have fun taking back to back drives.

clubsport1

Tom,

If you fit a rear spoiler you need to fit a real Turnwald spoiler from the right era, not a later reproduction.

They are hard to find and not cheap either.

I am sure many will disagree and there will be a cheap fibreglass reproduction that looks ok from 10 feet away. If you know these cars you can spot a dodgy spoiler immediately, most owners of the real deal do not fit non factory parts. I know of a few people looking for factory large spoilers to back up the provenance of their car.

I have owned both small and large spoiler cars. Personally I prefer the small spoilers as a regular RS with the large spoiler loses it's subtlety, others will have a different view.

Teej,

You really need to look at an economics 101 to understand a little about supply and demand, these cars are already bought globally now.

The majority of these cars are in strong hands. I have spoken with a few people looking to buy cars and many owners just cannot part with them, even at current levels.
The rest of the world is managing to price, drive and own these cars without waiting for the US to get involved in owning them. There may be a few other US owners who are willing to buy when cars come to the US, maybe it's not just you who will be washed in a tsunami of supply!

Let's hope you get to own one some day when prices fall, before others look to buy.

There is some great enthusiasm for the Unicorn 993 on this forum, but they do exist and are owned in the rest of the world!