Fister III ceramic coating
#16
Rennlist Member
I had the same question.
For a nice vintage Porsche colour
Mag Silver
That is what FD Motorsport told me when I was buying and I believed them.
Also told me I would like the III's and I believed them.
They are batting 100% with me
I am thinking golden rod next that is easy no colour choice.
Stephen
For a nice vintage Porsche colour
Mag Silver
That is what FD Motorsport told me when I was buying and I believed them.
Also told me I would like the III's and I believed them.
They are batting 100% with me
I am thinking golden rod next that is easy no colour choice.
Stephen
#17
Burning Brakes
I have III's with cermachrome. I figure the coating will help lower radiated heat, and anything that helps remove heat from the engine bay is a positive for me.
#18
Burning Brakes
III's in Velvet Black. I went with black as a kind of homage to the old Abarth and Stebro exhausts of the '70s. I also got the black wide oval tips.
I don't believe the ceramic coating has anything to do with corrosion protection. It is to reduce radiated heat. My ceramic coated III's came back with the heat shields removed and there have been no issues for two years so far.
I don't believe the ceramic coating has anything to do with corrosion protection. It is to reduce radiated heat. My ceramic coated III's came back with the heat shields removed and there have been no issues for two years so far.
#25
RE: Ceramic Coating Exhaust tips and Mufflers
Also, the "bright" in bright ceramic is a layer of aluminum that will require some polishing for maintenance along the way. So from an "aesthetic perspective" it doesn't make much sense to take a perfectly good pair of stainless or chrome tips and coat them in bright ceramic unless there is an issue with them. Its much easier and idiot proof to polish a pair of SS tips than it is to clean a pair of tips with bright ceramic on them. In this case it makes more sense to go with one of the other colors that will also be somewhat maintenance free. Bright ceramic on mufflers is not as big of a problem since they're not as visible.
#26
Drifting
From a functionality perspective, ceramic coating the working pipes will reduce radiated temps and offer an attractive looking pipe / part for many years to come that turn various colors of the rainbow. As for color, its mostly subjective with the exception of the bright ceramic vs the satin colored ceramics. The high temp satin ceramics are are going to be rated around 2000F. Whereas the bright ceramic are going to limited to 1100F metal temp which translates to about 1300F - 1700F EGT. Therefore, bright ceramic is NOT a good choice for any turbo related applications.
Also, the "bright" in bright ceramic is a layer of aluminum that will require some polishing for maintenance along the way. So from an "aesthetic perspective" it doesn't make much sense to take a perfectly good pair of stainless or chrome tips and coat them in bright ceramic unless there is an issue with them. Its much easier and idiot proof to polish a pair of SS tips than it is to clean a pair of tips with bright ceramic on them. In this case it makes more sense to go with one of the other colors that will also be somewhat maintenance free. Bright ceramic on mufflers is not as big of a problem since they're not as visible.
Also, the "bright" in bright ceramic is a layer of aluminum that will require some polishing for maintenance along the way. So from an "aesthetic perspective" it doesn't make much sense to take a perfectly good pair of stainless or chrome tips and coat them in bright ceramic unless there is an issue with them. Its much easier and idiot proof to polish a pair of SS tips than it is to clean a pair of tips with bright ceramic on them. In this case it makes more sense to go with one of the other colors that will also be somewhat maintenance free. Bright ceramic on mufflers is not as big of a problem since they're not as visible.
#27
Ceramic Coating Exhaust Tips & Mufflers
This depends largely on the cost benefit from said coating. Is the coating applied throughout the muffler; or just on the outside?
OEM cans are 300 series stainless, so corrosion is not a real concern. Perhaps the claim is the ceramic coating keeps the muffler "cooler" or "flows" better?
Is there any test data to back this up?
D&D aftermarket performance motorcycle mufflers have been "selling" the ceramic coating, for going on 20 years now, but their product tubing is mild steel.
If its an appearance factor, I fail to see the point on muffler cans that are hidden; but then again, its not my money at this juncture...A $5 can of heat resistant paint might just do the trick for me.
OEM cans are 300 series stainless, so corrosion is not a real concern. Perhaps the claim is the ceramic coating keeps the muffler "cooler" or "flows" better?
Is there any test data to back this up?
D&D aftermarket performance motorcycle mufflers have been "selling" the ceramic coating, for going on 20 years now, but their product tubing is mild steel.
If its an appearance factor, I fail to see the point on muffler cans that are hidden; but then again, its not my money at this juncture...A $5 can of heat resistant paint might just do the trick for me.
Although most commonly used SS's will not rust away like a mild or aluminized steel, they WILL oxidize and corrode. Case in point, the $10K, fully polished 304SS Ferrari F-430 system below. That said, despite the functional benefits of the ceramic, most coat the components for aesthetic purposes.
#29
Rennlist Member
I have heard Dan's car sing for several years and then was able to be at a sound check of sorts between FD I, II's & III's, Dan's car won hands down! Darrin was at the sound check and told me the benefits of ceramic coating so I ordered my III's in black. The best quality and sound upgrade that can be done to the NA 993!