Best ROI on expensive mods
#16
Rennlist Member
Now if you're talking warmed over street engines, sure those will pop up time-to-time. But even if someone wanted to throw ~$15K at me for the 3.8, why bother? I can sell a stock 3.6 for over half that, and there's a whole lot more part out value in the 3.8 than that difference in price.
(Not even taking into account that the front straight pull at Thunderhill is around 3MPH between the regeared + 3.8 + 200 lbs lighter yellow car v. the stock 4S. I challenge anyone to claim that is required for street driving. Even DE.)
#17
Why not tighten it up even more. Say a 0.925ish 6th gear and work backwards. I'd tighten 2d through 5th (i.e. fifth would be even shorter than the current 1.06 you have here) and leave a bigger gap btw. 5th and 6th. This gives you a GREAT sport box with a taller 6th for the highway.
Last edited by saneproductions; 10-31-2014 at 01:11 AM.
#18
Race Car
What sort of return are you looking for? It appears that all the responses here are around what you would get if you then sold the car..
For me ROI is what performance 'Return' not financial....
As we all know expecting to get a financial return by modifying any sort of car is a little ridiculous.
For me ROI is what performance 'Return' not financial....
As we all know expecting to get a financial return by modifying any sort of car is a little ridiculous.
#20
Nordschleife Master
knowing what I know now, i probably would pay more for a car that already had a re-gear vs. on that didn't, all other things being equal. the same might be said for a 3.8 conversion, but the pool of buyers for that is likely smaller.
having the right buyer is everything with regards to ROI.
Personally, i wouldn't fret it, do what makes the car enjoyable for you within your budget and forget about the rest.
having the right buyer is everything with regards to ROI.
Personally, i wouldn't fret it, do what makes the car enjoyable for you within your budget and forget about the rest.
#21
Rennlist Member
knowing what I know now, i probably would pay more for a car that already had a re-gear vs. on that didn't, all other things being equal. the same might be said for a 3.8 conversion, but the pool of buyers for that is likely smaller.
having the right buyer is everything with regards to ROI.
Personally, i wouldn't fret it, do what makes the car enjoyable for you within your budget and forget about the rest.
having the right buyer is everything with regards to ROI.
Personally, i wouldn't fret it, do what makes the car enjoyable for you within your budget and forget about the rest.
Similarly, there's the Larry Cable low mileage, never abused 2S I could have had for $40K in '04 (~20K miles, aerokit/sport seats, ~$40K in a 3.8+ suspension). That car was sold about 1.5 years ago in the low $40K range--remember the not-so-great ad from an owner whose first language isn't English?
#22
Rennlist Member
#24
Burning Brakes
The problem with a regear of a US delivered 993 is that the 1 and 2 gears are integral to the same shaft, so changing either requires a new mains haft which I have been told is very expensive. For me, the 1 to 2 shift was always bad. The spacing is huge and made driving the car less fun. The wide ratios of the trans meant that I seldom got out of 2 for around town driving.
What I "lucked" into was a Motorsports gearbox. Had the separately removable 1 and 2 gears, steel synchros, better bearings, a LSD, and very close spacing on all gear ratios. Where I was using mostly 1 and 2 for around town, I now use 1 thru 4 gears. The close ratios make shifting a pure joy, and the car is faster for it. Someone once told me that regearing was akin to adding 50 hp to the engine. Now I believe that.
So, I gave $7500 for the Motorsports trans, which had been "refreshed" and sold the 100k mile /20 trans that came with my car for $2500. So, when netted out, I replaced a tired trans with one that had been refreshed and got that 50 hp for about $5k, which is a bargain given the grin on my face when I drive the car. Hopefully, I can recoup a portion of that $5k when I sell the car........if I sell the car!
What I "lucked" into was a Motorsports gearbox. Had the separately removable 1 and 2 gears, steel synchros, better bearings, a LSD, and very close spacing on all gear ratios. Where I was using mostly 1 and 2 for around town, I now use 1 thru 4 gears. The close ratios make shifting a pure joy, and the car is faster for it. Someone once told me that regearing was akin to adding 50 hp to the engine. Now I believe that.
So, I gave $7500 for the Motorsports trans, which had been "refreshed" and sold the 100k mile /20 trans that came with my car for $2500. So, when netted out, I replaced a tired trans with one that had been refreshed and got that 50 hp for about $5k, which is a bargain given the grin on my face when I drive the car. Hopefully, I can recoup a portion of that $5k when I sell the car........if I sell the car!