Notices
993 Forum 1995-1998

Ownership experience of the common dude who wants to be cool in a 993

Old 01-23-2014, 11:25 PM
  #16  
TMc993
Rennlist Member
 
TMc993's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Dahlonega, Georgia
Posts: 3,551
Received 534 Likes on 337 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by JB 911
Terrys being real quiet
I honestly don't know who this is but to be honest, there are days when I look in the mirror and think, "Who the hell is that?"
Old 01-24-2014, 10:33 AM
  #17  
chaoscreature
Burning Brakes
 
chaoscreature's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Vista, CA
Posts: 1,064
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Sounds like a case of "more money than sense" to me.
I can see how buying an older car could be frustrating for someone with little/no mechanic skills. Even as an ex-mechanic and an engineer I am sometimes flabbergasted by the lack of thought that went into maintainability (distributor belt, oil filter locations, kinematic clutch levers, starter bolts etc.)

Funny how it just takes one day in a Dodge Avenger to make you realize how luck you are (I rented one too. Yuck).
Old 01-24-2014, 10:36 AM
  #18  
Pzkw993
Instructor
 
Pzkw993's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Powell, OH
Posts: 207
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

David's a nice kid who decided to try living his dream and went about it in a spectacularly naive fashion.

Still, how many of us had their dream car at the age of 23? I didn't own a 993 until I was thirty-one.

It's been a trial by fire for our young friend, to be sure. But if he'd called me ahead of time before his purchase, I don't know what I would have told him, other than to pack a DME relay in the glovebox.

I think he's currently shopping for a 997 GT3.
Old 01-24-2014, 10:47 AM
  #19  
Quadcammer
Race Director
 
Quadcammer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Clifton, NJ
Posts: 15,626
Received 1,368 Likes on 792 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Pzkw993
David's a nice kid who decided to try living his dream and went about it in a spectacularly naive fashion.

Still, how many of us had their dream car at the age of 23? I didn't own a 993 until I was thirty-one.

It's been a trial by fire for our young friend, to be sure. But if he'd called me ahead of time before his purchase, I don't know what I would have told him, other than to pack a DME relay in the glovebox.

I think he's currently shopping for a 997 GT3.
thats all well and good, but perhaps he shouldn't be showing of his naivete by writing about it on some popular blog. He just comes off like a ******.

from what I can see, a 997 GT3 isn't the right answer either.
Old 01-24-2014, 11:08 AM
  #20  
Tim, near Boston
Rennlist Member
 
Tim, near Boston's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 146
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by fatmike
I've read his stuff

I love the truth about cars though. Here is my favorite porsche write-up ever:

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...o-you-no-good/
Sheesh, that is brutal!
Old 01-24-2014, 11:44 AM
  #21  
axl911
Drifting
 
axl911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 2,559
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Pzkw993
David's a nice kid who decided to try living his dream and went about it in a spectacularly naive fashion.

Still, how many of us had their dream car at the age of 23? I didn't own a 993 until I was thirty-one.

It's been a trial by fire for our young friend, to be sure. But if he'd called me ahead of time before his purchase, I don't know what I would have told him, other than to pack a DME relay in the glovebox.

I think he's currently shopping for a 997 GT3.
Yep. Naive is exactly right. Many people think the 993 is a modern car. Unfortunately, the car itself is not that far from the 911s of the 80s. The technology and engineering is still pretty much the same with some improvements.

Go into a 993 with the expectation of a British or Italian sport car then you would do well.

Go into a 993 with the expectation of a modern sport car and you will be shocked by how archaic, slow, and expensive it is.

I realized this (at least the archiac and expensive part of it) when I asked the price of a maintenance service for a 964 I was PPI'ing. I was driving a newer BMW M3 at the time.
Old 01-24-2014, 11:48 AM
  #22  
TMc993
Rennlist Member
 
TMc993's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Dahlonega, Georgia
Posts: 3,551
Received 534 Likes on 337 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Tim, near Boston
Sheesh, that is brutal!
...But dead-on.
Old 01-24-2014, 12:16 PM
  #23  
SonnyT
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
SonnyT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 90
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

I guess there are those who buy on a whim and those who do their research beforehand. I bought mine about 10 years ago (coming from a 944) and this forum gave me a pretty good idea of the costs, common issues, DIY requirements, etc.

At the time it was my daily driver, so I heeded the common advise "buy the most modern Porsche you can afford". Of course, it had to be air cooled, so 993 it was even though I was dying for the 930. Now that it's not my DD, I think about the 930 a lot, but have grown too fond of this one to let it go
Old 01-24-2014, 06:29 PM
  #24  
Pzkw993
Instructor
 
Pzkw993's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Powell, OH
Posts: 207
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Quadcammer
thats all well and good, but perhaps he shouldn't be showing of his naivete by writing about it on some popular blog. He just comes off like a ******.

from what I can see, a 997 GT3 isn't the right answer either.
He was willing to share his mistakes in the hope of steering other people in the right direction, so I was willing to publish what he'd written. He went into the ownership experience pretty much blind and did some stupid things.

I have a lot of respect for him. Too many people seem to think the purpose of the Internet is to attempt to show other people what a total hard-*** and know-it-all you are and to project some aura of faux invincibility. I've been on Rennlist for a pretty long time and one of the reasons I'm not on more is that attitude from some of the posters. (With that said, I've also had some great interactions/transactions/meetups with Rennlisters.)

Given you comment about the GT3 not being the "right answer" --- what is the "right answer"? Does he need to "earn" the car in some sense other than earning the money (he paid for the 993 himself, no parents involved)? Does he need to run IMSA PayCup for a year or something like that? Does he need to know how to tear down and rebuild a Metzger engine?
Old 01-25-2014, 03:36 PM
  #25  
XavierLaFlamme
Rennlist Member
 
XavierLaFlamme's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 1,561
Received 95 Likes on 40 Posts
Default

All in all it sounds a lot like my 993 experience...but I have enjoyed almost all of it.

I was prepared to spend time learning about it, fixing it and of course paying ridiculous prices for parts along the way.

In the two times I have been stranded I learned a ton about preparation and makeshift repair.

I enjoyed the blog postings! My C4S would be a total bummer if I wasn't prepared for it.
Michael
Old 06-30-2015, 12:42 PM
  #26  
Guest89
Drifting
 
Guest89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: CHI / ATL
Posts: 2,792
Received 197 Likes on 115 Posts
Default

A friend sent me a link to this. I am the author in question.

I enjoyed my 993 immensely, and made a modest net profit when I sold it earlier this year.

I enjoyed my 997 GT3 before it met its end at the hands of a teenager who learned a very expensive lesson about failure to yield.

And now I'm enjoying my 991 GT3, which hasn't even broken down yet.
Old 06-30-2015, 01:17 PM
  #27  
AOW162435
Seared
Rennlist Member
 
AOW162435's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Ellicott City, MD
Posts: 16,754
Received 407 Likes on 229 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Guest89
In my previous entry I recounted how I forsook other marques and at the eleventh hour turned my hymnal to 993 while shopping for my first car, but I didn’t elaborate on why I had such an interest in the ***-engined **** slot cars in the first place.

As someone born to German parents who saw firsthand the atrocities of WWII, the above comment tells me everything I need to know about you.



Andreas
Old 06-30-2015, 02:01 PM
  #28  
_snowbird_
Rennlist Member
 
_snowbird_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 1,075
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

..

Last edited by _snowbird_; 07-03-2015 at 03:38 PM.
Old 07-01-2015, 04:22 PM
  #29  
Shtootgart
Rennlist Member
 
Shtootgart's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Western
Posts: 336
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by AOW162435
As someone born to German parents who saw firsthand the atrocities of WWII, the above comment tells me everything I need to know about you.



Andreas
Plagiarized P.J. O' Rourke on that one. He earned, on his own apparently, enough to drive a 991 now. Blog on Hemingway
Old 07-01-2015, 11:57 PM
  #30  
Ed Hughes
Rennlist Member
 
Ed Hughes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Bend, OR
Posts: 16,506
Received 77 Likes on 51 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Guest89
A friend sent me a link to this. I am the author in question.

I enjoyed my 993 immensely, and made a modest net profit when I sold it earlier this year.

I enjoyed my 997 GT3 before it met its end at the hands of a teenager who learned a very expensive lesson about failure to yield.

And now I'm enjoying my 991 GT3, which hasn't even broken down yet.
Oooooh, so cool you got to drop multiple 99x GT3's in one post.

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: Ownership experience of the common dude who wants to be cool in a 993



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 09:45 AM.