axl911

YES!!! I would gladly trade my soft 993 for a 930 or 965, or better yet, a '73 RS or one of those 2.8 RSR!!!

Quadcammer

so why not do it? A decent 930 can be had for nice 993 money. ($35-$40k)

Kika

That is why the 73 911S is so sought after, raw sports car.

Comparatively the 993 is luxurious. I tried to replicate the feel of an early 911 with my SC, but it still weighed 2700 lbs with a stock 180HP. I dyno'd at 163, so I might have been around 190HP, but that is still a ways from 2200lbs and 210 HP.

Even if one could get a 993 to the same lbs/HP, it wouldn't feel the same.

when I sold my SC, I wanted more of a GT car, AC, power steering, but something I could still feel connected to.

Since I came from an older car, (80 911SC) and an even older one before that (68 912, that was REALLY Light)
the 993 is much heavier in comparison and much much more luxurious.

axl911

Yup. I have been looking on and off for a good 930 for a while now. A '79 with an upgraded intercooler & exhaust. Possibly, also a 1bar spring.

nile13

That is why I absolutely love a Miata, especially the first two generations. It certainly has a raw sports car feel. And it has some decent basic comfort like A/C. non-leaking roof and working electrics. oh, and it doesn't really leak oil.

skl2

I have both...very different cars. Love them each for different reasons. My cayman is heavily modded, but it still feels more refined and luxurious than the 993. It is much faster and perfectly balanced. The 993 is a little more raw, smaller and def feels like a throw back. However, in the end, you can tell they came from the same family!

matt777

If there was a proliferation of forums back then I am sure that would be the case. The same discussions go on at the guitar forums although I laugh at people calling 80's and 90's instruments "vintage".

jimbo3

Porsche already has things in their line-up which are something like what you describe with the Cayman R and Boxster Spyder, plus they are currently working on a smaller, lighter car with VW.

My expectation in owning a Porsche is to own and drive a sports car, and the more I look at more current 911's (996, 997, 991), the more I move toward the Boxster/Caymen varients to meet that expectation. As fine as the 991 may be, I'm not interested in owning one.

Riz

Now that is the best idea I've heard in a while. Do a 993 with a 3.8L. The problem is that when you are gigging you take the reissue guitar/amp combo. You keep the original one at home. When you want to play the vintage stuff - it doesn't work! The tubes are bad, the pots are noisy, the speaker doesn't work. Then you have to get it serviced just to hear it a few times. Is it worth it - you bet. There is nothing like an old strat/tele through a blackface deluxe reverb.

race911

I'll save the old ladies and injured dogs, and just invite you to sample mine out here sometime. (Be careful for what you wish for, though. The 3.8 isn't "all that".......nor is the gearing sometimes, if you recall my Laguna thread from last week.)

But to get back on topic, I think the 991 is just fine for what it needs to accomplish in today's world. Given engine reliability, I'll gladly shop a 2012 model in 2017 or 2018.

I've got my 993s partially because they were bought for all I think any non-investment grade car is worth. Funnyism going on right now is that I'm on the verge of taking a huge step back into the torsion bar chassis world. The underlying car that will be transplanted into my faux '73 RS shell will result in a car that will not really be any slower than the faux 993 RS. Albeit, with a much worse ride, and will require all the skill I still have to hustle as quickly as the 993.

uicnick

A little OT but responding to the thread below: Very nice cars. I wouldn't buy a similar Porsche product because I know it would be overpriced. I believe they were looking into a small 4 cylinder model but they cancelled it due to concerns of tarnishing the brand or something like that (like they haven't done that already with the Cayenne/Touareg or Panemera) I'd buy the Subaru but to answer your question, yes I would be interested in seeing it made.

ABCar

Funny, I thought the same thing after reading recent reviews on the Subie/Toyo car. Great looking (mostly) simple, light, rear drive and balanced power to weight. It sounds like an old 911 formula.

Ed Burdell

I do, too. When I bought my two week old '79 Strat, it was considered crap because it wasn't pre-CBS. Nowadays everyone's more than willing to overlook the micro-tilt w/the three bolt neck, and the large headstock. Same story with my '83 Les Paul Custom, and my mid-90's JCM900DR (the 996 of the Marshall world). They even reissued that amp.

Referring to an earlier comment here, I agree that the original article of anything possesses something that a reissue just can't conjure up - call it legitimacy, gravitas, patina, mojo, whatever.

993/907

Porsche has taken the 991 into the GT class for the well heeled, not a bad marketing plan considering what must be a high profit market.
And that creates a niche for their Cayman .... likely an excellent sports car that might replicate some of the things we love about our 993 sports cars.

Ya'll?

Gordo

matt777

and you could pay extra for the relic finish or heavy relic which would include road rash and oil leakage.