highest height possible with B6 + H&R
07-15-2015, 12:15 PM
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highest height possible with B6 + H&R
Rennlist says H&R = too low ?
so , what is highest height possible with Bilstein B6/HD ( normal , NOT xtra threads ) + H&R springs ?
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so , what is highest height possible with Bilstein B6/HD ( normal , NOT xtra threads ) + H&R springs ?
ROW Sport = F : 144mm , R : 127mm
RS = F : 124mm , R : 107mm
RS = F : 124mm , R : 107mm
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07-15-2015, 07:12 PM
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i see they will drop low to RS like your car . i wish to see how high they can be set with HD (non xtra thead ) . then I can see the min / max range . non ?
yours is HD without xtra threads ? if so , how much adjustment does limited threads give ?
07-15-2015, 09:28 PM
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You should figure on a 1.2" drop, at the highest due to the length and design of the H&R springs.
If you need to maintain stock US ride height or perhaps a little lower, you need the ROW M030 springs which lower the car about .5"-.75" from stock US ride height.
Naturally, PSS-10's (or any other full-threaded coilover kit) will permit you to put the ride height wherever YOU want, but those are higher-cost options.
If you need to maintain stock US ride height or perhaps a little lower, you need the ROW M030 springs which lower the car about .5"-.75" from stock US ride height.
Naturally, PSS-10's (or any other full-threaded coilover kit) will permit you to put the ride height wherever YOU want, but those are higher-cost options.
07-16-2015, 04:35 PM
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I posted my experience with Bilstein HD (no xtra threads) + H&R and several measurements on my blog here http://twofourthsfull.blogspot.com/2...revisited.html.
Short version, on my car:
Max Bilstein HD height adjustment + H&R springs (front):
D. Front: 121mm (RS = 124mm)
P. Front: 118mm (RS = 124mm)
My rear, not at max, measures
D. Rear: 124mm (RS = 107mm)
P. Rear: 118mm (RS = 107mm)
Take the following with a grain of salt -- it's just my experience and I'm not 100% confident in this...
The H&R springs lower the car about 1.2" as Steve said, but my (very old Bilstein HD's) appear to lower the front of car 20-30mm vs. stock struts regardless of springs (speculation, not measured). Combine that with the H&R lowering springs, and the front of the car gets too low unless you are going to use RS parts to fix front-end bumpsteer.
I am not happy with how this setup rides, so I'm changing it to PSS10's...when I get my engine back together ;-).
Short version, on my car:
Max Bilstein HD height adjustment + H&R springs (front):
D. Front: 121mm (RS = 124mm)
P. Front: 118mm (RS = 124mm)
My rear, not at max, measures
D. Rear: 124mm (RS = 107mm)
P. Rear: 118mm (RS = 107mm)
Take the following with a grain of salt -- it's just my experience and I'm not 100% confident in this...
The H&R springs lower the car about 1.2" as Steve said, but my (very old Bilstein HD's) appear to lower the front of car 20-30mm vs. stock struts regardless of springs (speculation, not measured). Combine that with the H&R lowering springs, and the front of the car gets too low unless you are going to use RS parts to fix front-end bumpsteer.
I am not happy with how this setup rides, so I'm changing it to PSS10's...when I get my engine back together ;-).
07-16-2015, 05:13 PM
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willus , seems very wrong ?
HD + H&R makes your car lower than RS ...
at max heights? cannot be normal ...
HD/B6 is not the shorter ... is same as factory in length . BUT the B8 is the shorter one .
we need experts to help this situations ... pls ...
HD + H&R makes your car lower than RS ...
at max heights? cannot be normal ...we need experts to help this situations ... pls ...
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07-16-2015, 11:19 PM
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My $0.02: Steve's the expert - if he says 1.2" then it will be 1.2".
Why did I measure more than 1.2"? There are a few possibilities I can think of.
1. I measured wrong (but the measurements confirmed visual observation the front was stupid low).
2. I installed the Bilstein's wrong.
3. I tracked down the part numbers on my Bilstein HD's and they are about 4 revisions older than the current one. Maybe my very old HD's are a different design? Doesn't seem likely, but then at least it's not my fault ;-).
Anyhow, trust Steve. I'm starting over with a new suspension anyways...
Why did I measure more than 1.2"? There are a few possibilities I can think of.
1. I measured wrong (but the measurements confirmed visual observation the front was stupid low).
2. I installed the Bilstein's wrong.
3. I tracked down the part numbers on my Bilstein HD's and they are about 4 revisions older than the current one. Maybe my very old HD's are a different design? Doesn't seem likely, but then at least it's not my fault ;-).
Anyhow, trust Steve. I'm starting over with a new suspension anyways...
07-17-2015, 10:39 AM
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My $0.02: Steve's the expert - if he says 1.2" then it will be 1.2".
Why did I measure more than 1.2"? There are a few possibilities I can think of.
1. I measured wrong (but the measurements confirmed visual observation the front was stupid low).
2. I installed the Bilstein's wrong.
3. I tracked down the part numbers on my Bilstein HD's and they are about 4 revisions older than the current one. Maybe my very old HD's are a different design? Doesn't seem likely, but then at least it's not my fault ;-).
Anyhow, trust Steve. I'm starting over with a new suspension anyways...
Why did I measure more than 1.2"? There are a few possibilities I can think of.
1. I measured wrong (but the measurements confirmed visual observation the front was stupid low).
2. I installed the Bilstein's wrong.
3. I tracked down the part numbers on my Bilstein HD's and they are about 4 revisions older than the current one. Maybe my very old HD's are a different design? Doesn't seem likely, but then at least it's not my fault ;-).
Anyhow, trust Steve. I'm starting over with a new suspension anyways...
cannot think old HD is different in lengths - vs - new HD .
07-17-2015, 10:45 AM
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but ... you are THE expert 
... maybe you can help willus on his problems .
you say 1.2" drop . he says much much more and ... " stupid low " .
his reality == my fears .
much thx !
... maybe you can help willus on his problems . you say 1.2" drop . he says much much more and ... " stupid low " .
his reality == my fears .
much thx !
07-19-2015, 05:38 AM
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Remember, spring length and design determines final ride height using the B6 shocks, unlike a fully-threaded coilover (which offers infinite adjustability.
H&R springs do lower these cars anywhere from 1.2-1.4" (excluding the small range of adjustment on the shock bodies). If you need to keep the ride height closer to OEM, I'd kindly recommend using a factory spring; either the original ones or perhaps ROW M030 or M033.
H&R springs do lower these cars anywhere from 1.2-1.4" (excluding the small range of adjustment on the shock bodies). If you need to keep the ride height closer to OEM, I'd kindly recommend using a factory spring; either the original ones or perhaps ROW M030 or M033.
07-19-2015, 08:33 AM
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thx for reply !
no explanation why willus car sitting below the RS heights ...
did you know how much the ' small range of adjustment on the shock bodies ' is equates in mm pls ?
no explanation why willus car sitting below the RS heights ...
did you know how much the ' small range of adjustment on the shock bodies ' is equates in mm pls ?