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Old 04-13-2009, 05:20 PM   #1
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Default Cost of clutch replacement

I searched before posting this, but search is still flakey (grrrrr!). Can anyone who recently paid a shop to do a clutch job on their car (pressure plate, bearing, disc, bushings, etc.) tell me how much it cost them? I might be due for a clutch replacement soon and I'm trying to get a sense for the cost involved.

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Here is a link to the last discussion I read. It might help some. I've seen clutches advertised for less than $500 but then you need other parts and of course labor. Upgrades like the LWF would of course add more $$$$.

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Here is a link to the last discussion I read. It might help some. I've seen clutches advertised for less than $500 but then you need other parts and of course labor. Upgrades like the LWF would of course add more $$$$.

http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...ch+replacement
**and possible stalling problems on a 95 if you upgrade to a LWF. Ask me and 70% of the other 95 owners who installed LWF's why we know this.
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Old 04-13-2009, 05:57 PM   #4
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When my clutch started slipping recently, I opted to upgrade to the LWF/RS clutch. About $1700 for that and all the related parts; i.e. clutch slave, pressure plate etc. Labor charge was about another $1500 to install. Good times
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Recent price check for stock clutch with all the misc. small parts from Sunset apx $800.00 - LWF/RS clutch $1,700.00. Labor est. from indy wrench 5-6 hrs.
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Recent price check for stock clutch with all the misc. small parts from Sunset apx $800.00 - LWF/RS clutch $1,700.00. Labor est. from indy wrench 5-6 hrs.
Not trying to start an argument here, but I talked to many, many shops when I did my LWF/RS clutch. They all said the same thing: plan on a day to drop the engine, and another day to install the clutch and put the engine back in, about 16 hours total. The shop I went with charges $100/hr, so it was around $1500 for the labor.

One can do a clutch install without dropping the engine, though most mechanics I spoke to (and Porsche) do not recommend it. That can shave several hours off the labor, though.
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Not trying to start an argument here, but I talked to many, many shops when I did my LWF/RS clutch. They all said the same thing: plan on a day to drop the engine, and another day to install the clutch and put the engine back in, about 16 hours total. The shop I went with charges $100/hr, so it was around $1500 for the labor.
Does it really take an entire day for a shop to drop a 993 engine? I havn't done it myself, but wouldn't think it would be that hard, especially if you had a lift and proper engine jack. I'm not disputing the estimate, just suprised that it would take that long unless they were doing a bunch of "while you are in there" stuff.
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Not trying to start an argument here, but I talked to many, many shops when I did my LWF/RS clutch. They all said the same thing: plan on a day to drop the engine, and another day to install the clutch and put the engine back in, about 16 hours total. The shop I went with charges $100/hr, so it was around $1500 for the labor.

One can do a clutch install without dropping the engine, though most mechanics I spoke to (and Porsche) do not recommend it. That can shave several hours off the labor, though.
These are shops that are just out to screw you, or are too stupid to know how to work on a car. You are talking to the wrong shops.. It takes about 5-6 hours to do a clutch in these cars. You can EASILY pull the tranny leaving the motor in (and then also not requiring an alignment). The is ONE tricky part to installing the clutch cross shaft. But in theory you are taking it to a professional that can do this blindfolded. I do NOT like to upset one major system in the car, when working on another. Why remove the engine (electrical connections, fuel lines, power steering, suspension, vacuum lines, vent lines, etc) when the tranny falls out of the car with about 20 bolt / nuts? Greed or stupidity. Even the best mechanics can leave something off when reinstalling, there could be corrosion on parts that require replacement, and the list goes on. So please keep looking for a good shop....
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Agree with Bob in not disturbing other systems but typically at clutch time other maintenance is due and can be grouped into the clutch price labor wise.

Ahh, the cross shaft would be tricky insitu. Risky if you dont get it pushed into the far side casting boss correctly.
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Old 04-13-2009, 11:33 PM   #12
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Yes, I agree with Bob and Chris re: not dropping the engine for a clutch job, even though Porsche recommends that you do. It can be done, but good luck getting a quote for $500-$600 for labor for that job, at least here in Southern California. I decided in the long run to drop my engine because at 65K miles, there was other "while you're in there" stuff I decided to do that was much easier to do with the engine out.

When I was shopping prices to do my clutch late last year, there were a few shops here in SoCal that offered to do a new clutch without dropping the engine. Interestingly, all those shops had the same labor price as the ones that drop the engine to do the clutch: about $1500.

Compared to Chris and Viper Bob, I know nothing about Porsches and would always defer to them about that. But after shopping around for LWF/RS clutch install costs, you will never get a competent mechanic to do this job for less than $1000 in SoCal.

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Old 04-13-2009, 11:47 PM   #13
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I had my clutch plate replaced when my top end was done a year ago.

What a difference. Feels brand new. So smooth now. especially when down shifting.
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My clutch was replaced at 118k miles. Given its age and mileage, I opted to have the engine dropped simply to assess what else should be done at that mileage. I could have saved a few bucks, I am sure, but figured proactive maintenance was prudent ...as opposed to "going in" again later. As always, YMMV

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There are many ways to change a clutch, drop engine, leave engine in etc... blah blah blah. If you are a shop making a living then the shortest time required to do a job is what it takes.

Chris and I recently did a Ferrari 360 clutch change, we took everything apart to remove the transmission and repaired and correct several items that were **** poorly done by previous mechanics. Later we were blamed by the owner for spending too much time on changing the clutch because all other mechanics just leave everything instact and move the transmission few inches from the engine to replace the clutch.

We both scratched our head and couldn't figured out how they would be able to repair the cracked engine main cover plate and replace the rear main seal, and replace the pilot bearing. The answer was they didn't care, so things that needed attention was left broken.

The engine rear main cover from this Ferrari was "bang" out of shape, someone actually took a hammer and bang the **** out of it. Thus the oil leak.
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Chris took the time and had the rear main plate machined flat again. Here and new rear main seal, new pilot bearing and the "reconditioned" rear main cover installed. The owner of the Ferrari was completely clueless that Ferrari does not sell the rear main cover plate by itself, you will have to buy a complete new bottom end of an engine. We just saved him $10k. You still can see the hamer mark from this pic from where the plate was previously hammered by "other" mechanics.

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We recently worked on a 993 where we removed the engine to replace just about everything. It gives us gratification to see a almost brand new 993 motor going back into a car after hours of cleaning and reconditioning.

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