993 Price Tracking Thread - Please only post data for cars you have purchased or sold
#422
Rennlist Member
I got dinged for paying too much when I first bought this from other members, but now it seems like a decent deal as the prices have climbed even in the last 4 months. Still not quite to what I've spent given the suspension upgrade and bumper respray, but soon enough it looks like! purchase price (in USD please): $49,999 (sales tax rate changes in CT at 50k) purchase date: October 2014 mileage: 35,300 state or country where purchased: CT Model year: 1996 C2 or C4: C2 Coupe, targa or cab: Coupe color: guards red tip or manual: Manual NA or turbo: NA any aftermarket accessories that came with the car: None did the vehicle come with tool kit: yes did the vehicle come with tire inflator kit: yes your assessment of the vehicle history in terms of paperwork/receipts (1-10, 10 being highest): 10 all books records from day 1 your assessment of the interior quality (1-10, 10 being highest): 9.5 your assessment of the exterior quality (1-10, 10 being highest): 9.5 your assessment of the mechanical condition of the vehicle (1-10, 10 being highest): 10 Very basic options - single cd, 8 way power comfort left and right, sunroof. Just changed out the suspension to Koni for ROW height and resprayed the rear bumper for 2 scratches. Paint meter shows driver side rear quarter panel resprayed since meter shows 6 vs 4.5 for rest of car. No Bondo. Photo taken before suspension upgrade.
#424
Rennlist Member
The purpose of this thread is to report actual sales. Not to try to market your car.
Lets avoid speculation of what your car is worth. This thread was designed to help you by reading the sales reports.
Post a proper classified ad and sell it at the price you see on the listing of actual sales and what you can read from the various online marketplace listings.
Get with the program and stop abusing the rules. Moderators...where are you these days?
Lets avoid speculation of what your car is worth. This thread was designed to help you by reading the sales reports.
Post a proper classified ad and sell it at the price you see on the listing of actual sales and what you can read from the various online marketplace listings.
Get with the program and stop abusing the rules. Moderators...where are you these days?
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#425
Instructor
The spreadsheet in the original post does not seem to be working. Does anyone have it?
purchase price: $32,000
purchase date: 11/2/2014
mileage: 91,500
state or country where purchased: AZ
Model year: 1995
C2 or C4: C2
Coupe, targa or cab: Coupe
color: Guards Red
tip or manual: Manual
NA or turbo: NA
aftermarket accessories that came with the car: T-lock, sat radio, amp, Xenons, lloyd mats, leatherique kit
your assessment of the vehicle history in terms of paperwork/receipts (1-10, 10 being highest): 8
your assessment of the interior quality (1-10, 10 being highest): 8
your assessment of the exterior quality (1-10, 10 being highest): 8
your assessment of the mechanical condition of the vehicle (1-10, 10 being highest): 8
Purchased from: Private Party or Dealer? Private
How many previous owners?: 5
Accident history: yes/no??: No
Please list any factory installed options: Wheel caps with colored Porsche crest, 17" wheels, Automatic speed control, Sun-moon-roof, CD-radio Apline 7807/dd
Please list any modifications: Fister stage 2, 17" 996 wheels, euro turn signals, Schnell strut tower brace, Koni FSDs with MO33 ROW springs, RS motor mounts, rennline bezels
purchase price: $32,000
purchase date: 11/2/2014
mileage: 91,500
state or country where purchased: AZ
Model year: 1995
C2 or C4: C2
Coupe, targa or cab: Coupe
color: Guards Red
tip or manual: Manual
NA or turbo: NA
aftermarket accessories that came with the car: T-lock, sat radio, amp, Xenons, lloyd mats, leatherique kit
your assessment of the vehicle history in terms of paperwork/receipts (1-10, 10 being highest): 8
your assessment of the interior quality (1-10, 10 being highest): 8
your assessment of the exterior quality (1-10, 10 being highest): 8
your assessment of the mechanical condition of the vehicle (1-10, 10 being highest): 8
Purchased from: Private Party or Dealer? Private
How many previous owners?: 5
Accident history: yes/no??: No
Please list any factory installed options: Wheel caps with colored Porsche crest, 17" wheels, Automatic speed control, Sun-moon-roof, CD-radio Apline 7807/dd
Please list any modifications: Fister stage 2, 17" 996 wheels, euro turn signals, Schnell strut tower brace, Koni FSDs with MO33 ROW springs, RS motor mounts, rennline bezels
#426
Hi all! My first post here and I have finally found my dream 993!
Purchase price: $44.500 (cheap in Europe nowadays!)
Purchase date 8 December 2014
Mileage: 76.500 Miles 123000 kilometers.
Coutry purchased: Sweden
Model year: 1994
Carrera 2/4: 2
Coupé
Color: Kristallsilber (a 944 color, almost like Arctic Silver)Black interior.
Gearbox: Manual
Paperwork/reciepts: 7,5
Interior quality: 9
Exterior quality: 9,5
Mecanic condition: 9
purchased from: Private
Previous owners: n a
Accident history: No
Factory Options: LSD+ABD, Sunroof delete, soft back sports seats fully electric and heated, sound package, green tinted top of windscreen, M030, 17'' cup wheels, Air con.
Pretty much the perfect 993 if You ask me!
/ Jacob
Purchase price: $44.500 (cheap in Europe nowadays!)
Purchase date 8 December 2014
Mileage: 76.500 Miles 123000 kilometers.
Coutry purchased: Sweden
Model year: 1994
Carrera 2/4: 2
Coupé
Color: Kristallsilber (a 944 color, almost like Arctic Silver)Black interior.
Gearbox: Manual
Paperwork/reciepts: 7,5
Interior quality: 9
Exterior quality: 9,5
Mecanic condition: 9
purchased from: Private
Previous owners: n a
Accident history: No
Factory Options: LSD+ABD, Sunroof delete, soft back sports seats fully electric and heated, sound package, green tinted top of windscreen, M030, 17'' cup wheels, Air con.
Pretty much the perfect 993 if You ask me!
/ Jacob
Last edited by Railmaster.; 02-25-2015 at 08:18 AM. Reason: add milage
#427
Burning Brakes
Railmaster - WELCOME!
#428
New Happy 993 owner, looking forward to the community!
Purchase price: $50,500
Purchase date 2-27-15
Mileage: 81,000 Miles
Coutry purchased: US
Model year: 1996
Carrera 2/4: 2
Coupé
Color: Black/Black
Gearbox: Manual
Paperwork/reciepts: 5
Interior quality: 9
Exterior quality: 8.5
Mecanic condition: 8.5
purchased from: Private
Previous owners: 3
Accident history: No
Factory Options:
Purchase price: $50,500
Purchase date 2-27-15
Mileage: 81,000 Miles
Coutry purchased: US
Model year: 1996
Carrera 2/4: 2
Coupé
Color: Black/Black
Gearbox: Manual
Paperwork/reciepts: 5
Interior quality: 9
Exterior quality: 8.5
Mecanic condition: 8.5
purchased from: Private
Previous owners: 3
Accident history: No
Factory Options:
#430
Instructor
Welcome cbesing! You found the right place!
BT
BT
New Happy 993 owner, looking forward to the community!
Purchase price: $50,500
Purchase date 2-27-15
Mileage: 81,000 Miles
Coutry purchased: US
Model year: 1996
Carrera 2/4: 2
Coupé
Color: Black/Black
Gearbox: Manual
Paperwork/reciepts: 5
Interior quality: 9
Exterior quality: 8.5
Mecanic condition: 8.5
purchased from: Private
Previous owners: 3
Accident history: No
Factory Options:
Purchase price: $50,500
Purchase date 2-27-15
Mileage: 81,000 Miles
Coutry purchased: US
Model year: 1996
Carrera 2/4: 2
Coupé
Color: Black/Black
Gearbox: Manual
Paperwork/reciepts: 5
Interior quality: 9
Exterior quality: 8.5
Mecanic condition: 8.5
purchased from: Private
Previous owners: 3
Accident history: No
Factory Options:
#431
$50500 for a C2 is a lot of money! Could have bought an Aston Martin DB 5 for that money 15 years ago, had the money but rejected to buy!
We are not in it for the money but the time to buy a 993 was like five years ago!
We are not in it for the money but the time to buy a 993 was like five years ago!
#432
Nordschleife Master
Interesting article on Air-cooled Turbo prices ...
http://www.classicdriver.com/en/arti...nally-shooting
http://www.classicdriver.com/en/arti...nally-shooting
Are prices for the air-cooled Porsche 911 Turbo finally shooting up?
10 March 2015
Anyone buying a classic Porsche 911 Turbo today will need to take a deep breath before signing the cheque –
because they’ve suddenly leapt in price, especially the air-cooled models. We asked the experts to explain the Turbo hype...
The new engine strategy at Porsche has helped to identify the naturally aspirated models as an endangered species – and hence suggests their investment potential. But then again, the death of the classic brand-new Carrera might have no effect on the value of the true, collectors’ models. While enthusiasts might be pretty annoyed that every Porsche 911 is likely, soon, to carry the symbol ‘Turbo’, does this account for the rocketing values of air-cooled specimens of this genus? A look at the catalogues for the upcoming auctions at Amelia Island is enough: a rare Porsche 993 Turbo S (pictured), perhaps the only one in Ocean Jade Metallic, is estimated by Gooding & Co. at 325,000 to 400,000 US dollars. At current exchange rates, that’s 300,000 to 370,000 euros! And one of fewer than 1,500 964 Turbos – the yellow car in the picture – is listed in the catalogue at 300,000 to 350,000 US dollars.
The greatest Turbos of all time
We asked the experts why these air-cooled Turbos are suddenly so expensive, with their rapid increase in value often overtaking the earlier Porsche 930. “The 3.3-litre 911 Turbo with four-speed gearbox remained virtually unchanged from 1978 to 1988, so there are a lot on the market – many of which are now showing signs of corrosion. This is an expensive problem!” warns Josh Sadler of Porsche specialist Autofarm, in Oxfordshire. Philip Raby, of Philip Raby Porsche in Chichester, West Sussex, agrees, adding: “The 964 and 993 Turbos were galvanised and so rust is much less of a problem. Also, the 993 Turbo is a much more useable car with its twin turbochargers, reducing the massive lag that the earlier Turbos suffered from – and its four-wheel drive also makes the power more manageable.” Arguably exempt from these criticisms is the “original Turbo” of the Seventies – the 1974-1977 911 3.0 Turbo is valuable because it is the most original, according to Dino Pannhorst of Pannhorst Classics, who reports that the early Turbos now attract strong prices.
But in general terms, what are the most desirable Turbos of all time? For Dino Pannhorst, it’s the rare Porsche 964 Turbo S and 993 Turbo S. Josh Sadler, however, would prefer a well-ripened 1975 Turbo 3.0. “It was seriously state-of-the-art when it appeared,” he says. Meanwhile Philip Raby stresses that a 911 Turbo was the real poster car among 911s. “That’s also what makes the Turbo – aside from the performance – more desirable for many buyers,” says Raby.
The next generation
Porsche sold far greater quantities of modern Turbos with water cooling and many collectors currently wonder when and if it will pay to invest in one of the modern generations. Yes, it’s worth it, our respondents agree… but don’t expect major price jumps, at least not for the 997 Turbo. Right now, Raby sees the potential of the 996 Turbo: “People have woken up and realised that the 996 Turbo – at current prices – is a great car. Good, well-maintained examples already generate decent prices because they are becoming increasingly rare.” Dino Pannhorst sees particular potential in the factory-uprated models. Meanwhile, on the question of whether the future of Porsche has an impact on the market for younger generations of the Turbo, Pannhorst responds: “I think the clientele for the original Porsche concept will continue to grow. Many of my customers no longer identify with a modern Porsche.”
Classic Porsche price jump
Since 2014, there has been a positive trend in the market for high-priced collector Porsches worth more than 100,000 euros, according to the analysts of Historic Automobile Group International, also known as HAGI. In 2014, Porsche showed the strongest performance at 32 per cent, with Ferrari at 18 per cent. In 2013, it was a different story: classic Ferraris reached 62 per cent, with the corresponding Porsches off the pace in relative terms, at 24 per cent. As the 2014 figures show, the lower price levels then reached by Porsches is now seen as an advantage. Porsche’s Turbo models benefit from this trend, with HAGI’s price analysis showing that in the last two years, 964 and 993 Turbos have witnessed a real leap in prices. However, it’s well worth remembering that these cars offer not only investment potential, but also a thrilling, involving drive – and it’s for this reason thet they are in such high demand today.
10 March 2015
Anyone buying a classic Porsche 911 Turbo today will need to take a deep breath before signing the cheque –
because they’ve suddenly leapt in price, especially the air-cooled models. We asked the experts to explain the Turbo hype...
The new engine strategy at Porsche has helped to identify the naturally aspirated models as an endangered species – and hence suggests their investment potential. But then again, the death of the classic brand-new Carrera might have no effect on the value of the true, collectors’ models. While enthusiasts might be pretty annoyed that every Porsche 911 is likely, soon, to carry the symbol ‘Turbo’, does this account for the rocketing values of air-cooled specimens of this genus? A look at the catalogues for the upcoming auctions at Amelia Island is enough: a rare Porsche 993 Turbo S (pictured), perhaps the only one in Ocean Jade Metallic, is estimated by Gooding & Co. at 325,000 to 400,000 US dollars. At current exchange rates, that’s 300,000 to 370,000 euros! And one of fewer than 1,500 964 Turbos – the yellow car in the picture – is listed in the catalogue at 300,000 to 350,000 US dollars.
The greatest Turbos of all time
We asked the experts why these air-cooled Turbos are suddenly so expensive, with their rapid increase in value often overtaking the earlier Porsche 930. “The 3.3-litre 911 Turbo with four-speed gearbox remained virtually unchanged from 1978 to 1988, so there are a lot on the market – many of which are now showing signs of corrosion. This is an expensive problem!” warns Josh Sadler of Porsche specialist Autofarm, in Oxfordshire. Philip Raby, of Philip Raby Porsche in Chichester, West Sussex, agrees, adding: “The 964 and 993 Turbos were galvanised and so rust is much less of a problem. Also, the 993 Turbo is a much more useable car with its twin turbochargers, reducing the massive lag that the earlier Turbos suffered from – and its four-wheel drive also makes the power more manageable.” Arguably exempt from these criticisms is the “original Turbo” of the Seventies – the 1974-1977 911 3.0 Turbo is valuable because it is the most original, according to Dino Pannhorst of Pannhorst Classics, who reports that the early Turbos now attract strong prices.
But in general terms, what are the most desirable Turbos of all time? For Dino Pannhorst, it’s the rare Porsche 964 Turbo S and 993 Turbo S. Josh Sadler, however, would prefer a well-ripened 1975 Turbo 3.0. “It was seriously state-of-the-art when it appeared,” he says. Meanwhile Philip Raby stresses that a 911 Turbo was the real poster car among 911s. “That’s also what makes the Turbo – aside from the performance – more desirable for many buyers,” says Raby.
The next generation
Porsche sold far greater quantities of modern Turbos with water cooling and many collectors currently wonder when and if it will pay to invest in one of the modern generations. Yes, it’s worth it, our respondents agree… but don’t expect major price jumps, at least not for the 997 Turbo. Right now, Raby sees the potential of the 996 Turbo: “People have woken up and realised that the 996 Turbo – at current prices – is a great car. Good, well-maintained examples already generate decent prices because they are becoming increasingly rare.” Dino Pannhorst sees particular potential in the factory-uprated models. Meanwhile, on the question of whether the future of Porsche has an impact on the market for younger generations of the Turbo, Pannhorst responds: “I think the clientele for the original Porsche concept will continue to grow. Many of my customers no longer identify with a modern Porsche.”
Classic Porsche price jump
Since 2014, there has been a positive trend in the market for high-priced collector Porsches worth more than 100,000 euros, according to the analysts of Historic Automobile Group International, also known as HAGI. In 2014, Porsche showed the strongest performance at 32 per cent, with Ferrari at 18 per cent. In 2013, it was a different story: classic Ferraris reached 62 per cent, with the corresponding Porsches off the pace in relative terms, at 24 per cent. As the 2014 figures show, the lower price levels then reached by Porsches is now seen as an advantage. Porsche’s Turbo models benefit from this trend, with HAGI’s price analysis showing that in the last two years, 964 and 993 Turbos have witnessed a real leap in prices. However, it’s well worth remembering that these cars offer not only investment potential, but also a thrilling, involving drive – and it’s for this reason thet they are in such high demand today.
#433
The time is whenever you are ready..
Railmaster,
If the time to buy was 5 years ago you missed it by 4 years, 8 months.
And if you drove the DB5 and the 993 the same mileage over those 5 years, you would have most likely doubled your 'investment' in the AM.
It's impossible for you to pass judgement on what someone pays without knowing all of the details, including how long they are going to keep it, and where 993 prices will be when they sell it. Google was a lot of money at $300/share 6 years ago. It has split 2 for 1 since then, and is now around $550/share!
I'm just sayin.....
If the time to buy was 5 years ago you missed it by 4 years, 8 months.
And if you drove the DB5 and the 993 the same mileage over those 5 years, you would have most likely doubled your 'investment' in the AM.
It's impossible for you to pass judgement on what someone pays without knowing all of the details, including how long they are going to keep it, and where 993 prices will be when they sell it. Google was a lot of money at $300/share 6 years ago. It has split 2 for 1 since then, and is now around $550/share!
I'm just sayin.....
#435
Rennlist Member
purchase price: 44,500
purchase dateL 2/21/15
mileage: 55,600
state or country where purchased: So Calif
Model year: 96
C2 or C4: C2
Coupe, targa or cab: Coupe
color: Guards Red
tip or manual: Manual
NA or turbo
aftermarket accessories that came with the car: Fr. strut brace, trunk lid liner, foldable armrest, car covers
your assessment of the vehicle history in terms of paperwork/receipts (1-10, 10 being highest): 8.5
your assessment of the interior quality (1-10, 10 being highest): 9.5
your assessment of the exterior quality (1-10, 10 being highest): 8.75
your assessment of the mechanical condition of the vehicle (1-10, 10 being highest): 9.5
Purchased from: Private Party or Dealer?: Private
How many previous owners?: 2
Accident history: yes/no??: No accidents
Please list any factory installed options: CD changer, Limited Slip, 17" wheels, Pwr driver's seat
Please list any modifications: None
purchase dateL 2/21/15
mileage: 55,600
state or country where purchased: So Calif
Model year: 96
C2 or C4: C2
Coupe, targa or cab: Coupe
color: Guards Red
tip or manual: Manual
NA or turbo
aftermarket accessories that came with the car: Fr. strut brace, trunk lid liner, foldable armrest, car covers
your assessment of the vehicle history in terms of paperwork/receipts (1-10, 10 being highest): 8.5
your assessment of the interior quality (1-10, 10 being highest): 9.5
your assessment of the exterior quality (1-10, 10 being highest): 8.75
your assessment of the mechanical condition of the vehicle (1-10, 10 being highest): 9.5
Purchased from: Private Party or Dealer?: Private
How many previous owners?: 2
Accident history: yes/no??: No accidents
Please list any factory installed options: CD changer, Limited Slip, 17" wheels, Pwr driver's seat
Please list any modifications: None
Last edited by Pr William; 09-10-2015 at 02:01 AM.