NNN Investment

If you look at the two pics I posted for the C2 2012 997 C2 and 2012.5 991 C2 there was a huge price drop. Like 8k. That's all I was bringing up. That's why I was leaning towards leasing new. Plus running through my biz the payments would be under 1000k after write off and residual is 67k in three years. It probably will be worth more then that.

phow

I agree with your decision to lease through your business. ATM, that's what I'm doing with 2 vehicles through my business.

I would like to point out that I think the comparison you shared might be slightly unfair. Comparing a 997 and 991 of the same year is not really the same as comparing a 991 of an older year to a 992 of a current year. Why would someone buy a 2012 997 C2 when they can have a 2012 991 C2? The only way someone would go for the 997 is if there was a major price difference. So the 8k in that scenario makes sense.

Also the 997 to 991 was a major change for the 911. Based on the photos we have already seen, the 992 will be an evolution of the current 991.2. I don't think there will be as many 991.2 owners jumping on the 992 at release as there were 997 owners moving to the 991.

The release of an incrementally new model really doesn't hurt resale/trade-in value as much as one would think. I just sold my 2014 Nissan GTR for exactly what I projected when I bought it and that was before the new 2017 was announced or released.

NNN Investment

Good point. 👍. I also looked at 1 15 turbo S for 125k range. So many choices. Lol.

911seeker

Prices for 991 will fall when 992 is available, period. To which extent, remains to be seen. If you want maximum protection, buy or lease a preowned 991, keep it long term and don't jump to the 992 till 992 discounts kick in later in the 992 model cycle.


If you don't care that much, lease now a 991 for 3 years and lease a 992 to replace it when it becomes available.

phow

Personally, I would go with a slightly older well specced car over a new base car if the plan is to just own for a couple of years. You'll lose less on the resale/trade end and have a "better" car to drive.

My lightly used 991.1 C2S MSRP was 132k and I grabbed it for 90k. I'll keep it for ~2 years and dump it around ~80k. I much rather have the car I have then a base 991.2 but again, it's all personal preference.

kayjh

That is my plan. My 3 year lease will be up about a year into the 992 cycle. Perfect for picking up a new model in the second year. I doubt the residuals on 2017 models being delivered now will factor in a future "extra depreciation" for year 3, which overlaps the introduction of the new model.

But, in the end, you get bit by the model change over depreciation anyway. If you own the car, you ay get less on a lease. if you lease the car, the amount of "equity" (difference between the residual and market value) in your leased car drops. Still with a lease, if you don't like the numbers and want a different car, you can just walk way.

NNN Investment

Agreed. 👍

99999

With Porsche's "pull ahead" lease program, you can get the 992 right when it is available anyway.

kayjh

I guess so, assuming the deal doesn't penalize me for getting out early. It will be a couple of years before I have to think about it. Just waiting for my car to arrive now. About 4 - 5 weeks.

crossroads

I think the best way to lease these cars is a base model with minimal options. You'll get the most for your money as too many options may not factor in much with residual value. If I could write off some of my lease payments through my business, I would definitely take advantage of it.

Sounds pretty reasonable and it will give you time to figure out which 911 you really want.

NNN Investment

My last one was a 14 S which I bought used. I learned things that I never used. Like launch control/Sport Chrono. I had leather everywhere. Not necessary. I didn't have park assist front and rear. I always had my son get out and tell me how far I got to go. Lol. The 17 has features I love. Apple car play. Sensors for parking. Here is my build if I go with the lease.
Here is the build.
http://www.porsche-code.com/PJDTHBK0

911seeker

PSP, ah? "controversial" option around here...

NNN Investment

Lol. Don't know what to say about that. Lmao.

budrichard

PSP, not required at all.
On the other hand with PDK, the Sport Chrono has the Steering Wheel Mode Selector with the'Push to Pass' button. Worth the price of admission!
If you just want a Porsche nameplate on your vehicle for the least cost and view the purchase as a commodity, as Posted purchase used.
But a 991.1 is not a 991.2 and will not be a 992.
They are all different vehicles and not a commodity, at least to me.-Richard

LehmanZ06

IMO.......Sport Chrono with push to pass is a gimmick.

Do you really have to push a button on the steering wheel ?

I just push the gas pedal.