Modern air cooled 911
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Modern air cooled 911
new to the forums but I was wondering if Porsche will ever modernize the air cooled engine. The reason I ask is that they sell cars at all price ranges and variations. Would they not want take money away from Singer? I'm not excepting them to go all out like a Singer but a car 1/5 to a 1/3 of the price? Have a car that has a moderate horsepower but excel in the driving/handling like the past. As a person who was not old enough to drive back than I want to hear and feel what a modernized air cooled engine does with my emotions.
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Never, ever happen.
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Can't meet emissions. Won't happen.
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Other reasons as well. Four-valve heads apparently were impossible to cool sufficiently with the air-cooled design, and you can't make big power with two-valve heads. The most powerful NA air-cooled engine Porsche put on the street (correct me if I'm wrong) was the 993RS 3.8 -- only about 310hp. A Singer 3.8, using the best modern technology available, only makes about 360hp. So you see the problem here.
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The 959 had a 2.85 liter turbo engine developing 450 hp. It's considered air-cooled, although it had 4-valve water-cooled heads to solve the exact issue you describe.
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new to the forums but I was wondering if Porsche will ever modernize the air cooled engine. The reason I ask is that they sell cars at all price ranges and variations. Would they not want take money away from Singer? I'm not excepting them to go all out like a Singer but a car 1/5 to a 1/3 of the price? Have a car that has a moderate horsepower but excel in the driving/handling like the past. As a person who was not old enough to drive back than I want to hear and feel what a modernized air cooled engine does with my emotions.
Think about what you are asking. Why doesn't Porsche build an inefficient, high emissions motor that is low on power and using a completely different architecture than any motor it makes for a low volume niche car?
If Porsche wanted to build a Singer facsimile, it would probably cost more than a Singer.
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new to the forums but I was wondering if Porsche will ever modernize the air cooled engine. The reason I ask is that they sell cars at all price ranges and variations. Would they not want take money away from Singer? I'm not excepting them to go all out like a Singer but a car 1/5 to a 1/3 of the price? Have a car that has a moderate horsepower but excel in the driving/handling like the past. As a person who was not old enough to drive back than I want to hear and feel what a modernized air cooled engine does with my emotions.
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One more thing: air-cooled engines tend to be noisy, and more countries/markets have noise limits.
My 964 (an perhaps 993's) had complete encapsulation of the engine with sound-trapping panels. Total PITA when it was time for valve adjustments.
My 964 (an perhaps 993's) had complete encapsulation of the engine with sound-trapping panels. Total PITA when it was time for valve adjustments.