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#16
Racer
If it seems fair buy it. Spending months searching for a car in hopes of spending 1-2% less isn't my idea of time well spent. One persons opinion.
#18
Neither a great or horrible deal in my opinion. However, if you're new to Porsche, the issue IMO isn't whether this is a good deal or not, it's whether this is the car you really want. I'd suggest getting to know what's out there, the different options available, etc., before you drop $70k on any Porsche. This may be a good deal, but not the car/option mix you really wanted once you learn what else is out there. And when you're shopping, always remember. There is always another car. If I had purchased the first 991 I liked, I would have been very sorry later.
#19
For a non-S, CPO'd there can be better deals that I've seen in the HFS thread. Even though it has low miles, I'd rather have 10k-20k+ for an S for similar price.. But, if you love the car and itching to buy then why not... It will be getting warmer soon!
#20
So, $18,000 + your 3 year old M3 gets you into a 2 year old base 911. Your net out of pocket would be 18K
The dealer thinks of your M3 in terms of its auction worth, IMO, 47K. Which means he needs to sell the 911 for at least 65K (18 + 47) to break even.
I would guess, if you took your trade off the table and offered him 68K cash for the 911, he'd take it. If you then sold your M3 yourself for 55K (very doable) your net out of pocket would be 13k (68 - 55) not the 18k associated with a trade.
Bottom line, you gain 5k by selling the M3 yourself.
The dealer thinks of your M3 in terms of its auction worth, IMO, 47K. Which means he needs to sell the 911 for at least 65K (18 + 47) to break even.
I would guess, if you took your trade off the table and offered him 68K cash for the 911, he'd take it. If you then sold your M3 yourself for 55K (very doable) your net out of pocket would be 13k (68 - 55) not the 18k associated with a trade.
Bottom line, you gain 5k by selling the M3 yourself.
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So, $18,000 + your 3 year old M3 gets you into a 2 year old base 911. Your net out of pocket would be 18K
The dealer thinks of your M3 in terms of its auction worth, IMO, 47K. Which means he needs to sell the 911 for at least 65K (18 + 47) to break even.
I would guess, if you took your trade off the table and offered him 68K cash for the 911, he'd take it. If you then sold your M3 yourself for 55K (very doable) your net out of pocket would be 13k (68 - 55) not the 18k associated with a trade.
Bottom line, you gain 5k by selling the M3 yourself.
The dealer thinks of your M3 in terms of its auction worth, IMO, 47K. Which means he needs to sell the 911 for at least 65K (18 + 47) to break even.
I would guess, if you took your trade off the table and offered him 68K cash for the 911, he'd take it. If you then sold your M3 yourself for 55K (very doable) your net out of pocket would be 13k (68 - 55) not the 18k associated with a trade.
Bottom line, you gain 5k by selling the M3 yourself.
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8.5% sales tax = $4,500ish (here in Illinois, you get this offset when trading in a car on a dealership purchase)
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#28
yes - in texas you only pay sales tax (6.25% in this case) on the net purchase price (sales price of new car less trade in allowance). You would be surprised how close the variance on a dealer trade versus third party sale is.
#29
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One suggestion I have is to test drive a base 911 and a 911 S to compare power
I owned a 2015 M3 and that thing had a lot of torque
I also owned a 911 S for few months , but have test driven the base 911 on several occasions
if you are a torque kind of guy , you might like the S better and for the same money you might be able to get an S may be a year older with a little bit more miles
if you decide on this car, definitely ask them to throw a ppi at a porsche dealer in town ; they will tell you we ran through our shop, but that means nothing
I owned a 2015 M3 and that thing had a lot of torque
I also owned a 911 S for few months , but have test driven the base 911 on several occasions
if you are a torque kind of guy , you might like the S better and for the same money you might be able to get an S may be a year older with a little bit more miles
if you decide on this car, definitely ask them to throw a ppi at a porsche dealer in town ; they will tell you we ran through our shop, but that means nothing
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