Observations after spening 4 hours at dealer
09-06-2016, 03:19 PM
#31
Sadly the "competition" does offer a far superior base interior trim.
If in doubt have a seat in a Mercedes GT or Audi R8.
Yes, choices are great and yes they're called options. We all know that.
The fact remains that the entry level trim for a $100k 991 is, as someone so eloquently stated, unspectacular.
No one is attacking the hallowed 911, we're simply talking about interior base trim as pointed out by the OP.
If in doubt have a seat in a Mercedes GT or Audi R8.
Yes, choices are great and yes they're called options. We all know that.
The fact remains that the entry level trim for a $100k 991 is, as someone so eloquently stated, unspectacular.
No one is attacking the hallowed 911, we're simply talking about interior base trim as pointed out by the OP.
09-06-2016, 03:26 PM
#32
Sadly the "competition" does offer a far superior base interior trim.
If in doubt have a seat in a Mercedes GT or Audi R8.
Yes, choices are great and yes they're called options. We all know that.
The fact remains that the entry level trim for a $100k 991 is, as someone so eloquently stated, unspectacular.
No one is attacking the hallowed 911, we're simply talking about interior base trim as pointed out by the OP.
If in doubt have a seat in a Mercedes GT or Audi R8.
Yes, choices are great and yes they're called options. We all know that.
The fact remains that the entry level trim for a $100k 991 is, as someone so eloquently stated, unspectacular.
No one is attacking the hallowed 911, we're simply talking about interior base trim as pointed out by the OP.
The "competition" is also much more expensive than the 911. You can purchase a base 911 for ~$90,000-100,000. Have you checked the MSRP of an R8 recently?
09-06-2016, 04:19 PM
#34
Sadly the "competition" does offer a far superior base interior trim.
If in doubt have a seat in a Mercedes GT or Audi R8.
Yes, choices are great and yes they're called options. We all know that.
The fact remains that the entry level trim for a $100k 991 is, as someone so eloquently stated, unspectacular.
No one is attacking the hallowed 911, we're simply talking about interior base trim as pointed out by the OP.
If in doubt have a seat in a Mercedes GT or Audi R8.
Yes, choices are great and yes they're called options. We all know that.
The fact remains that the entry level trim for a $100k 991 is, as someone so eloquently stated, unspectacular.
No one is attacking the hallowed 911, we're simply talking about interior base trim as pointed out by the OP.
09-06-2016, 04:51 PM
#35
Burning Brakes
May have been a too harsh here but it's like this for me.
-Base trim is plastic I believe, even if it isn't doesn't make you feel like it belongs in a$100-150k car.
-When you pay for brushed aluminum it misses many areas like around speakers in doors, wheel, door handles, etc. so you're left with two finishes.
-Never considered paint, that's a thought. I've read bad things about taking this option but will look into it again.
-Carbon fiber is my favorite but to pay ~$2500 for it plus gear lever is a kick in the teeth for so little trim and it were ally only works with black or the blue maybe.
-Leather is okay but doesn't really translate well because it looks like it should be some trim and was added as an afterthought.
-Mahogany is very nice but very limited based on color of interior. It would be nice if they through in another wood option but wood almost seems out of place in the 911.
Disgraceful was more meant for the fact that they are putting such a cheap standard trim in to begin with, just rubs me the wrong way that's all. Increase the price $500 and put in something that's not plastic.
-Base trim is plastic I believe, even if it isn't doesn't make you feel like it belongs in a$100-150k car.
-When you pay for brushed aluminum it misses many areas like around speakers in doors, wheel, door handles, etc. so you're left with two finishes.
-Never considered paint, that's a thought. I've read bad things about taking this option but will look into it again.
-Carbon fiber is my favorite but to pay ~$2500 for it plus gear lever is a kick in the teeth for so little trim and it were ally only works with black or the blue maybe.
-Leather is okay but doesn't really translate well because it looks like it should be some trim and was added as an afterthought.
-Mahogany is very nice but very limited based on color of interior. It would be nice if they through in another wood option but wood almost seems out of place in the 911.
Disgraceful was more meant for the fact that they are putting such a cheap standard trim in to begin with, just rubs me the wrong way that's all. Increase the price $500 and put in something that's not plastic.
Your best bet would be the M4.
09-06-2016, 05:10 PM
#36
I don't fault Porsche for the quality of their interior trim because I don't care about the quality of the 911 interior trim, aluminum or otherwise. But I do care about the color of the interior trim.
The way I look at the interior of the car, the 911 standard color offerings for the seat covers, with the exception of red (maybe), are bland and unexciting. And, without help, that's the visual result of the interior of the car, bland and unexciting. The trim is the only the way to add vitality and excitement to the inside of the 911. Unfortunately, the trim selection is, IMO, also bland and unexciting. So, you end up with ......
This is where I think Porsche could - add more colors to their standard interior trim lineup.
I know you can paint the trim the same color as the outside; but, that, to me, is too predictable and so, kind of boring. I'm not referring to special orders.
The way I look at the interior of the car, the 911 standard color offerings for the seat covers, with the exception of red (maybe), are bland and unexciting. And, without help, that's the visual result of the interior of the car, bland and unexciting. The trim is the only the way to add vitality and excitement to the inside of the 911. Unfortunately, the trim selection is, IMO, also bland and unexciting. So, you end up with ......
This is where I think Porsche could - add more colors to their standard interior trim lineup.
I know you can paint the trim the same color as the outside; but, that, to me, is too predictable and so, kind of boring. I'm not referring to special orders.
09-06-2016, 05:29 PM
#37
We were talking about the base interior trim of your C2S, Targa, etc.
I believe the cars I mentioned are often compared and considered to be in the same class.
Partial "Pleather" seats and prematurely warping plastic door panels are sub par.
But I suppose you guys are right. It's an amazing and fault-free car with zero room for improvement.
I'm out..
09-06-2016, 05:33 PM
#38
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I'd honestly wait a bit longer and think hard about the car. It does sound like you're more interested in a .1 GTS, and I'd keep looking. You're bound to find a 7MT that checks all of your boxes.
I could have waited a few short months for a 991.2, but the more I thought about it, the more I realized that the refresh meant absolutely nothing positive to me. In fact, I was totally into the .1 NA engine and the GTS was the perfect car for me. Took a while to decide, but it was worth it.
I could have waited a few short months for a 991.2, but the more I thought about it, the more I realized that the refresh meant absolutely nothing positive to me. In fact, I was totally into the .1 NA engine and the GTS was the perfect car for me. Took a while to decide, but it was worth it.
09-06-2016, 05:38 PM
#39
I don't fault Porsche for the quality of their interior trim because I don't care about the quality of the 911 interior trim, aluminum or otherwise. But I do care about the color of the interior trim.
The way I look at the interior of the car, the 911 standard color offerings for the seat covers, with the exception of red (maybe), are bland and unexciting. .
The way I look at the interior of the car, the 911 standard color offerings for the seat covers, with the exception of red (maybe), are bland and unexciting. .
09-06-2016, 05:44 PM
#40
Wasn't referring to a Base 991 and comparing it to a R8 in terms of performance.
We were talking about the base interior trim of your C2S, Targa, etc.
I believe the cars I mentioned are often compared and considered to be in the same class.
Partial "Pleather" seats and prematurely warping plastic door panels are sub par.
But I suppose you guys are right. It's an amazing and fault-free car with zero room for improvement.
I'm out..
We were talking about the base interior trim of your C2S, Targa, etc.
I believe the cars I mentioned are often compared and considered to be in the same class.
Partial "Pleather" seats and prematurely warping plastic door panels are sub par.
But I suppose you guys are right. It's an amazing and fault-free car with zero room for improvement.
I'm out..
No one here is blindly protecting the 911 as far as I can see in this thread. I'm not saying it's the best interior in the world; hell, I didn't even say anything about the interior yet. You're just trying to justify your comments by pointing out non-existent fanboyism. Not gonna happen.
09-06-2016, 07:42 PM
#41
" A mono-tone leather interior with deviated stitching would be nice but talk about eye watering prices! Otherwise I am considering a base interior with the trim on the dash and around the shifter covered in leather for $900 so it looks consistent with the door panels. My only concern is the leather would be smooth finish leather on the trim but the surrounding dash has a pebble grain look. Hopefully it would be an exact color match but may age and look different over time."
My 2017 991.2 C4S has standard black interior with leather covered trim.
Can't see any difference in materials, especially at 144mph.
Looks just like my 2013 981B with full black leather.-Richard
My 2017 991.2 C4S has standard black interior with leather covered trim.
Can't see any difference in materials, especially at 144mph.
Looks just like my 2013 981B with full black leather.-Richard
09-06-2016, 08:14 PM
#42
They need vivid color options in their trim selections to give some distinctive pop to their nine staid leather color combinations. Brushed aluminum, Mahogany, Carbon Fiber are just more ho hum inside the car.
09-06-2016, 09:23 PM
#43
No. The leather seat colors are ok. I'm suggesting they provide more trim colors.
They need vivid color options in their trim selections to give some distinctive pop to their nine staid leather color combinations. Brushed aluminum, Mahogany, Carbon Fiber are just more ho hum inside the car.
They need vivid color options in their trim selections to give some distinctive pop to their nine staid leather color combinations. Brushed aluminum, Mahogany, Carbon Fiber are just more ho hum inside the car.
09-06-2016, 09:54 PM
#44
09-06-2016, 10:23 PM
#45
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There was a C4 GTS that went for high 90s and but it had over 15K miles..everything out there now is still in the 10% to 20% range.
Dealers are pricing GTSs as if they were GT3s