titleistaddict87

What're your thoughts? I'm still astounded that the GT4/Spyder have the same engine as my car but are so much more go-kart like. I know it's mid-engine vs. rear engine but how can I make my S more raw and dynamic??

My first mod so far: GT4 shifter. HUGE change IMO and made me fall in love with the car again. What should be next?

jennifer911

Carefully jack up the Porsche crest from the front of your car and wheel a 964 etc. under it!

Archimedes

Drive faster.

Turn more.

13mit

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I doubt most of us are getting close to the limits of our cars, especially if you're not driving at a track

golfnutintib

list 991 c s on rl
purchase 996 or 997 gt3
take driving lessons with pca ggr
not necessarily in any particular order

997s07

This is good advice. If you still want to hang to your 991, change to GT3 sway bars and set up the car as neutral as possible. The response frequency between the front and back changes dramatically. So the agility goes up. That's all you can do short of bringing the engine forward like the RSR has done.

008

MPSC2 tires, solid bushings in the suspension, stiffer motor and transmission mounts, lighter fly wheel, much stiffer springs with adjustable high end dampers (Penske, ohlin, moton, etc) and remove as much weight as possible.

Hothonda

Lots of info here.....

http://www.elephantracing.com/tool-b...n-overview.htm

more.......

https://rennlist.com/forums/991/8359...n-program.html

chuckbdc

Depends on what suspension options and tires are on your S now.

If its "feel you want, the very cheapest (and readily reversible) thing would be to have a race shop adjust your stock suspension camber, caster and toe-in to whatever you think are the "go cart" characteristics you like.

If its performance you want, start by getting your times at the track now, and then starting down the handling tuning path suggested by some. Make one change at a time and see how that improves things for you.

There really is little limit to how far you can go in making marginal changes to specs, equipment, body stiffeners, etc.

None will make you go faster faster than competent instruction and practice.

Nothing will start you out faster than proper tire pressures.

NoGaBiker

The 991 has migrated the 911 down the "more comfortable, lower NVH, yet still faster than predecessors" path. It has been a very successful path in terms of sales. It has caused a huge number of people to drive 911s who hadn't done so before. In fact, this migration was a big part of my decision to move from my previous Turbo to the 991.

So it is faster, quieter (at least the chassis is) and more comfortable. But if you want a more lively (read: less solid, more darty, less composed over rough Tarmac) ride, you'd be a lot better off starting with an earlier 911 chassis, or at least a 991 GT3. And by this I don't mean to imply that there's anything wrong with wanting more feedback and more tactile response on turn-in, and other things like this. As mentioned in the above posts, this can definitely be achieved with the 991. But it will (in my experience with earlier series 911s) result in a degradation of the things that make the 991 what it is. Which is why I think starting with a different platform might be less frustrating for you.

It's like if you want big power, sure you can start with a Miata and hang a snail on it, or drop a SBC into the engine bay. But is that really the best car to start with if big power is your bag?

Larry Cable

+1

titleistaddict87

Wow, huge articles everyone, thanks! That elephant racing group is local to me and looks like a well thought out group. Will read the articles and post back on what I end up finding. I'm not interested in more power per se, perhaps more in the handling arena so I'm thinking these guys might have me covered!

Dewinator

The coxster platform has so much of a lower polar moment of inertia, your 911 is never going to feel like it.

You can replace suspension components all day, but you'll probably end up with a tiny improvement in handling for a large increase in harshness. Unless you're going for a dedicated track car, you're unlikely to ever get to as good of a balance between comfort and performance as the stock SPASM setup. If you really want better handling, I'd stick with the stock hardware and get one of those DSC computer thingies that uses the SPASM in more advanced ways.

Or just sell it and buy the mid engined car that it sounds like you want.

Ski Porsche

Try a DSC module and their GT3 anti-roll bars. Your car will stay flatter and the turn-in will be sharper.

titleistaddict87

If I understand right, the PDCC only affects the engagement of the sway bars, not the sway bars themselves. So can I change the sway bars to GT3 and still have the PDCC work appropriately?