991 GTS4 wheel alignment
#1
991 GTS4 wheel alignment
Hi all,
Did anyone "fine tune" their GTS4 SPASM PDCC wheel alignment?
It's not a track car but a weekend fun and mountain curvy roads car.
I don' t want to replace any OEM parts and I'd love to get more steering feel, turn in bite and grip from my car. Benchmark would be a GT3 or GT4.
I have Pirelli zero tires and car has 8000 miles.
For your reference see below a GT3 stock alignment.
Many thanks.
Doc
Did anyone "fine tune" their GTS4 SPASM PDCC wheel alignment?
It's not a track car but a weekend fun and mountain curvy roads car.
I don' t want to replace any OEM parts and I'd love to get more steering feel, turn in bite and grip from my car. Benchmark would be a GT3 or GT4.
I have Pirelli zero tires and car has 8000 miles.
For your reference see below a GT3 stock alignment.
Many thanks.
Doc
#5
Race Director
Well, without changing out parts or tires, you're pretty limited. I would think its optimally aligned from the factory.
Really unhappy with the handling as is?? I find it amazing.
Check pressures? 31F/34R cold
Really unhappy with the handling as is?? I find it amazing.
Check pressures? 31F/34R cold
#6
Add toe out to improve turn in...my experience, not in a 911 but in a sports racer and other race cars.
Googled it and found this reference:
http://www.kennybrown.com/blog/14/ma...g-and-handling
Buy the Fred Puhn book:
https://www.amazon.com/How-Make-Your.../dp/0912656468
for a lot of info, it is a classic.
Googled it and found this reference:
http://www.kennybrown.com/blog/14/ma...g-and-handling
Buy the Fred Puhn book:
https://www.amazon.com/How-Make-Your.../dp/0912656468
for a lot of info, it is a classic.
#7
Thanks for your input.
The GTS handles very well and I like its neutrality. However, compared to other Porsche and Ferrari cars the steering / road feel and handling precision are not as good.
But I am sure 95% of Porsche drivers would love it as is.
The GTS handles very well and I like its neutrality. However, compared to other Porsche and Ferrari cars the steering / road feel and handling precision are not as good.
But I am sure 95% of Porsche drivers would love it as is.
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#8
Banned
I'm going to laugh this comment off. You'll be very hard pressed to find a closed wheel car that can handle as good from the factory. The car just gets better with added speed. I should take you for a ride. Bring diapers.
#9
I don't need lessons from a highway straight line pilot... I know what I am saying and I know what I feel when driving my cars on the road or on a track.
#10
Race Director
Originally Posted by jimbo1111
I'm going to laugh this comment off. You'll be very hard pressed to find a closed wheel car that can handle as good from the factory. The car just gets better with added speed. I should take you for a ride. Bring diapers.
It's all about da skillz.
I think you'd be hard pressed to find many with more than the car. My skillz have not even come close to eclipsing my 991's.
#11
Rennlist Member
MPSS if you can get them in the fitments needed.
Personally unless you drop a lot of money on aftermarket adjustable suspension components are you going to get close to either the adjustability or
feel of a GT geometry.
Personally unless you drop a lot of money on aftermarket adjustable suspension components are you going to get close to either the adjustability or
feel of a GT geometry.
#12
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#13
Banned
I am so impressed! Based on your confidence level you must be a a race champion in some lost village in the middle of nowhere.
I don't need lessons from a highway straight line pilot... I know what I am saying and I know what I feel when driving my cars on the road or on a track.
I don't need lessons from a highway straight line pilot... I know what I am saying and I know what I feel when driving my cars on the road or on a track.
#14
Banned
991 GTS4 wheel alignment
In all fairness though. The full degree of its capabilities is artificial and makes the learning curve even greater. The ptv is an incredible aid but it takes things to a new level in regards to edging the car and feeling where the slip occurs. Your basicly trying to learn a computers algorithm. If that makes sense. I'm more of a traditional type driver that learns the edge and it becomes implanted into my subconscious and can take it to its limits at will. The electronics are there to make a bad driver better but a good driver worse. My thoughts. I can't completely trust a movable object.
#15
Rennlist Member
In all fairness though. The full degree of its capabilities is artificial and makes the learning curve even greater. The ptv is an incredible aid but it takes things to a new level in regards to edging the car and feeling where the slip occurs. Your basicly trying to learn a computers algorithm. If that makes sense. I'm more of a traditional type driver that learns the edge and it becomes implanted into my subconscious and can take it to its limits at will. The electronics are there to make a bad driver better but a good driver worse. My thoughts. I can't completely trust a movable object.