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Old 04-27-2016, 08:26 PM
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Default M235xi + 01' C4 Cab or a 2014 991?

As the title states, I'm weighing out whether I'd rather keep my current 2 car setup vs going to one. The cars I currently enjoy are a 2016 BMW M235xi auto (bought new in September) and a 2001 C4 Cabriolet 6spd. I am eyeing a CPO '14 991. Looks like most of the CPO '14 991s are around $70k with very low miles and fully optioned (want a manual).

I'm figuring after trading in the M235xi (would be under water by $5-10k, but didn't put anything down when I purchased) and selling the 996 (own that outright) that I'd probably end up with approximately the same monthly payment for the 991 that I carry today for both cars.

I do live in Cleveland, so winter weather is a factor. However, I travel primarily for work (on planes that is) and when I'm not traveling I work from my home. So I don't really drive much, and can avoid it for the most part if need be (plus the wife has a GTI). Is anyone on the forum "crazy" enough to drive their 991 in winter weather, or are all these garage queens?

As I mentioned I don't get to enjoy driving as much as I would like, so having two cars does put me at a conflict from time to time. Part of my rationale is that I might enjoy having one "dream" car instead of the 2 I have now.

Anyone here face a similar decision (going from 2 really cool cars to a 991)? Did you do it? Any regrets? If not, why?

Anyway, I know this is a pretty loaded question and I'm the only one that can really answer it. But figured it was an interesting proposition and would like to hear what the people in the 991 world think!
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Get a 991. This mental debate you're having with yourself will seem silly after a day of driving it.
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C4S and you can drive it in the winter!
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I used to have a 981 Cayman S and a MKV GTI. I sold both, stuck a roof rack on my 991 for bike hauling.

Need to scratch that itch. One Car to Rule them All. The 911 is the best all around/practical sports car IMO.
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I can share my experience, not exactly the same, but similar. I owned a Mini Cooper S convertible when I purchased my 2015 991 Carrera. For the first 4 months, I had two cars in my garage. I noticed that I was using my 991 sparsely since it was my 'nice' car (and the mini really is fun), but when I drove it, it was such a pleasure that after a while I sold the mini and made the 991 my daily driver. It was a great decision. Why not drive the car you enjoy most all the time? On top of this, I did not want to maintain and insure 2 cars for 1 driver. For airport runs or really nasty weather, there is always uber.

It is the use of Uber that gives me peace of mind when traveling and a big grin every time I drive myself in my 991
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991 .... great daily driver, I put 26K miles on my first '14 991 C2S MT in 19 months ...
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Originally Posted by jbirdie6
As the title states, I'm weighing out whether I'd rather keep my current 2 car setup vs going to one. The cars I currently enjoy are a 2016 BMW M235xi auto (bought new in September) and a 2001 C4 Cabriolet 6spd. I am eyeing a CPO '14 991. Looks like most of the CPO '14 991s are around $70k with very low miles and fully optioned (want a manual).

I'm figuring after trading in the M235xi (would be under water by $5-10k, but didn't put anything down when I purchased) and selling the 996 (own that outright) that I'd probably end up with approximately the same monthly payment for the 991 that I carry today for both cars.

I do live in Cleveland, so winter weather is a factor. However, I travel primarily for work (on planes that is) and when I'm not traveling I work from my home. So I don't really drive much, and can avoid it for the most part if need be (plus the wife has a GTI). Is anyone on the forum "crazy" enough to drive their 991 in winter weather, or are all these garage queens?

As I mentioned I don't get to enjoy driving as much as I would like, so having two cars does put me at a conflict from time to time. Part of my rationale is that I might enjoy having one "dream" car instead of the 2 I have now.

Anyone here face a similar decision (going from 2 really cool cars to a 991)? Did you do it? Any regrets? If not, why?

Anyway, I know this is a pretty loaded question and I'm the only one that can really answer it. But figured it was an interesting proposition and would like to hear what the people in the 991 world think!
A 991 4S would be no less practical than an M235 (except for a minimally smaller trunk/frunk which I assume is not a big priority).
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991... I drive it everywhere, as long as there is no snow.
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I'm going to be the naysayer... likely you're more upside down than what you think in your car, not going to debate but you should take it in to see a real world trade in...

The 235 is in fact a more practical car - I have a 2 car setup and a "lesser" 991 as the result of my financial boundaries but prefer to have 2 cars and I personally would prefer to not daily drive a 911. It can be done and many on here swear by it and that is perfectly okay. I'm even okay if you're a democrat even though we wouldn't agree on too much

My recommendation is keeping the 2 car setup but you ultimately are the one paying for and living with this decision.

BTW... if it's just the itch to get something newer then I get it but consider that your 2001 is a fantastic car already!
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Another option is to buy the 991 and get a cheap winter beater. For the price of a set of winter wheels and tires, and the loss of value on the 991 from salt damage and rocks chips from winter driving, a winter beater will easily pay itself back.
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Originally Posted by manitou202
Another option is to buy the 991 and get a cheap winter beater. For the price of a set of winter wheels and tires, and the loss of value on the 991 from salt damage and rocks chips from winter driving, a winter beater will easily pay itself back.
YES. This would be a tied option to what I said... in my opinion.

Do you want or have a need for nice daily transportation? If not then who cares! Get an E36/46 BMW to drive daily or an older E class(my fav) for a few grand and use the 991 for pure fun!
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BTW... I should point out that it's much easier for me to spend your money wisely than my own
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I know I have recommended this several times before, but I'll say it again. Lease a cheap electric car (Volt, Leaf, or i3). Lease payment around $200 a month, no gas costs (about $15 a month in electricity), and no maintenance. Easy to drive, comfortable, modern tech like blue tooth and keyless entry. I was spending over a $100 a month on gas before switching to an EV 4 years ago. I'm on my second one right now and both have been great daily drivers. Way better than paying $5000-$7500 for an old outdated beater that requires maintenance.
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Originally Posted by manitou202
I know I have recommended this several times before, but I'll say it again. Lease a cheap electric car (Volt, Leaf, or i3). Lease payment around $200 a month, no gas costs (about $15 a month in electricity), and no maintenance. Easy to drive, comfortable, modern tech like blue tooth and keyless entry. I was spending over a $100 a month on gas before switching to an EV 4 years ago. I'm on my second one right now and both have been great daily drivers. Way better than paying $5000-$7500 for an old outdated beater that requires maintenance.

I understand and appreciate your logic but for 5K you can get a great older 5 series or E class.

Disclaimer: I'm also on the East coast and frequently need to go on 200 to 400 mile trips and we haven't caught up to the granola, birkenstock wearing coast in terms of charging stations.
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Originally Posted by R_Rated
I understand and appreciate your logic but for 5K you can get a great older 5 series or E class.

Disclaimer: I'm also on the East coast and frequently need to go on 200 to 400 mile trips and we haven't caught up to the granola, birkenstock wearing coast in terms of charging stations.
It doesn't work for everyone. I have a roadtrip/hauling vehicle (wife's Q7) available so I can get away with it. I originally was caught up in having a fun car to daily drive in addition to the Porsche, but eventually decided I wanted a car that I didn't really have to think about, and cared more about creature comforts than fun to drive.


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