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Old 03-15-2016, 06:35 PM
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Hi I just picked up my 991 carrera S a week ago and got a Pdk error message


I have only driven 250 kms. I took it back to the dealer and he has told me that the Pdk is defective, basically the Pdk and clutch oils have been mixing.

Porsche are replacing the Pdk tranny.

Have you guys come across this before
Old 03-15-2016, 06:38 PM
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Wow, you have a lot of leather.

There have been some failures. Porsche will fix it and you'll likely never have another issue. Good luck.
Old 03-15-2016, 06:40 PM
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Thanks. We like leather in the Middle East !!! , as a lot of the plastic parts get sticky over time due to the extreme heat
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yep....know the problem all too well.....my previous 2013 C2S @ 17k miles experienced the same problem (i was the second owner). no symptoms or warnings. parked to grab a coffee and the car's transmission didn't work upon my return. an entire transmission and module were replaced at Porsche's cost (it's like an $11k bill).

starting to see more and more of these instances, you can read about some of them here at RL.com.......do a search!
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I know of three of these failures in the past year from the board. Don't know the actual number or if its "normal" to have transmission issues with x many units out there, but it sucks and causes me worry. Hope you get sorted out quickly!

What year is your car?
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Typically if anything major is going to fail it's when it's brand new! It's a complicated mechanical machine it happens unfortunately, however that is why everyone is given a warranty from the manufacturer to cover the issues!
Old 03-16-2016, 01:12 AM
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Of the handful of PDK failures noted online most have issues early on with relatively very low miles on the car right where you expect them to be.

Makes us higher mileage PDK'ers hopeful not to have any issues.
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So that means manual>pdk
Old 03-16-2016, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by silvertige
So that means manual>pdk
Everytime,anytime,any day and twice on Sunday!


Sorry for your troubles OP,hope they'll have you back on the road quickly...
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Originally Posted by silvertige
So that means manual>pdk
Ha! Good one!
Old 03-16-2016, 10:33 AM
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Damn all this. I have a TT on order that I plan on keeping for a long time. PDK is the only option. I wish I could get manual. Don't know why they cram this technology down owners throats? Sorry to OP. This gives me no confidence in summing this technology will be a keeper.

I wonder if long-time don the rod owners will try to swap to manual one day when told PDK has failed off of warranty.
Old 03-16-2016, 10:44 AM
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Look at it this way - the part is very expensive to replace. If it has to fail, better to fail straight off the bat while you're barely into warranty!

You will be happy with the repair and forget all about this.
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Originally Posted by robwe46m3
Damn all this. I have a TT on order that I plan on keeping for a long time. PDK is the only option. I wish I could get manual. Don't know why they cram this technology down owners throats? Sorry to OP. This gives me no confidence in summing this technology will be a keeper.

I wonder if long-time don the rod owners will try to swap to manual one day when told PDK has failed off of warranty.
you are willing to spend $200k on a toy and you feel you are being crammed technology you don't want down your throat. If you are in fact feeling this way, you should not buy it... it cannot be a pleasant position to be in after spending all that money...
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Agreed with Derek...We have to look at the Bright Side and from my experience Porsche were quick to rectify the issue (maybe they know about it). I found out from the service manager that after further investigations of my PDK it was found to have a defective seal between the Clutch and Gears, this was causing the oil to mix. My car was found to have only 800ml of PDK oil and 4.6 litres of clutch oil. He told me that if I had continued to drive the car the gearbox would have seized. what surprises me the most is that there was another 991 which was bought a few days after mine was in the garage for the same issue. Both the cars were manufactured in Aug 2015.

The plus side is that it happened now than later.
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Originally Posted by robwe46m3
This gives me no confidence in summing this technology will be a keeper.
PDK failures are not common. I myself have logged around 45k PDK miles between two cars...hard Sport+ shifts, launch control, etc. No issues.


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