Yard Dog

Sorry to learn about the problems with your car.

The math (for me) in this situation is simple:

Car left me stranded + been to the dealer five times to get it fixed + issue still unresolved + new issues cropping up = Get rid of the car

Monetthecat

For what its worth.... Bought by 991 C2S new and the PDK failed last year at 6K miles. Middle of nowhere Wisconsin on Labor Day weekend. Trying getting a flatbed on that weekend....

PDK replaced and I thought seriously about trading it in. However, kept the car and have had no issues since. In fact I think the PDK was failing for a long time as once it was replaced the car drives so much smoother.

Noah Fect

IMHO there's probably nothing wrong with the transmission. You have some sort of Nick Murray-esque issue, probably a fairly simple one, that the dealer is just making worse by replacing random parts.

There's a lot to be said for trading it in and letting someone else worry about it. But if you like the car and want to keep it, you should shop around for second (and third) opinions.

johnireland

Without having any failures I still never had confidence in my 997. It isn't about one part of the car it is about the entire gestalt of modern engineering. A rose is a rose is a rose...and all our structures, machines, social institutions are crumbling for the reasons Joseph Tainter describes in his book "The Collapse of Complex Societies." The warning is echoed in Nasim Taleb's book "Antifragile."

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q...plex+societies

Seven sensors on each door just to get the window to drop down and then slip back up when opening and closing the door. Exhausts that use audio programs to remind us how cool and loud our cars are. The disappearance of the spare tire in many makes of cars, replaced with a lame promise of "roadside assistance and a bottle of glue."

The modern 911 (and Boxster and Cayman) bear little resemblance to the ideas that shapped the 356 and early 911. In the case of the 911, when they could not get customers to accept the 928, Porsche had to expand the concept of the 911 well past the point of diminishing returns. And so we have todays "super car."

Driving through Beverly Hills yesterday I saw four Ferraris, two Lambos and five 911s...all reving their engines in 100 foot spurts of acceleration before halting in a parking lot of traffic. These cars have no need for spare tires, they are never really going anywhere. They are toys for people that can afford them, but the modern cars and drivers have zero resemblance to machines and adventurers who braved mountains and deserts and unpaved roads in cars that redefined time and space and freedom of movement.

Automotive elephantitus will destroy the car much faster than the Marxist environmentalists will.

Key Left

Civilization moves on....he who hesitates is lost...time waits for no man...you cannot restore the past...the future is now!

oalvarez

Thanks everyone, I appreciate the comments, they'll surely help me shape my final decision. As for other opinions, I asked my trustworthy friend and my air cooled P car mechanic (TLG Auto) his thoughts, and in short, he suggested keeping it if it's a car I truly enjoy to drive. The obvious answer to that is "of course, and the car is spec'd out to my liking" but my ownership experience has been unpleasant, and that truly counts as well. As a hobbyist I don't know if I own a bad car (continued problems, will get hurt on resale value) or if these are just random events with this one being the last of them. The latter is what I don't feel like betting on no matter how much I like being behind its wheel. I guess I have to decide if I've met my pain threshold with this car, our other two Porsche automobiles are a joy (have had others prior to).

Archimedes

I'm guessing you're outside right now waving your cane and yelling 'Hey, you kids, get off of my lawn!'

thomnellie

None of the environmentalists I know are Marxists. There's even a Republican or two.

chuck911

You're talking watermelons. And RINO's.

RYE

I think you already know in your mind. If you trade the car, do it now while the PDK is malfunctioning, it's your only leverage to negotiate a great deal. I would talk to the dealer and see what they are willing to do for you.

ChoyV

Complain and complain big time so you can get the best deal if you plan to trade it in.
That is intricacies of today's modern car. To many electronics and sensors that may fail any time. Sometimes the sensor itself is the weakest link.

Archimedes

I've been getting pecked to death lately with repairs on our other vehicles (Chevy/Audi) and it's driving me crazy. But not a single one has anything to do with the modern elements of the car. It's all basic stuff going bad, some if it just obviously shoddy construction. I honestly think a group of monkeys must have assembled our Q7 when the factory was shut down for summer break.

In all my years of owning a ton of cars, I can't think of any major problems I had that were directly the result of something new and high tech. It's all been basic stuff.

MKW

Easy enuf for some here to type " just get rid of it " before quickly moving on to the next thread .....its not their $$$ down the drain !

The " best deal " is still a loss of thousands of dollars incl the sales tax ...for what could be , like some said , a faulty ground or bad BCM unit, etc. , all covered by the CPO warranty whose cost was also paid for by the OP. I suspect all these seemingly separate events have a common cause .

Interesting that the service tech noticed " funny wiring " under seat ..U wonder if previous owner had some aftermarket electronic gizmo installed by self or hack quality shop , messing up the MOST wiring harness or even a hard shell " race car " seat in it for a while ?

MJBird993

I've always had a rule - silly as it may be - that if a car ever strands me for something more serious than a dead battery or flat tire, it gets gone. It's a rare occurrence these days, but something that I won't tolerate.

Good luck with that. They're not going to take a loss either.

Unfortunately, that's what the first owner did. Now the OP is the one worrying about it.

I think you need another glass of wine.

Huh. My Audi is driving me nuts, and it is all the modern elements, keyless start, MMI, solenoids...

Sure, it's under warranty, but that doesn't mean that they can fix it.

RYE

You hit the nail on the head!