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I think it's one of those cars that if you never drive it it will appreciate, otherwise no.

NoGaBiker

Maybe this one's specialer than other special 911s, but there have been a metric butt-load of them down the years, and except in cases where there are real performance gains unavailable on other models at the time (such as RS3.8 or RS4.0), the conventional wisdom -- which says " Max of +5% above comparable non-SE car" -- always seems to hold true. Silver Anniversary SCs, 40th Anniversary 996, Boxster 550, Boxster RS60, Boxster Orange, Club Coupe, 911/50, yada yada yada.

Since this is a collection of paint and fabric specials, and nothing more, AND it pays homage not to the 911 per se, but to a Club... :shrug:

hard to see it doing anything except mirroring 911 depreciation on a slightly less steep curve. Which is fine if you love the car and are willing to pay the premium over a GTS with similar kit. But a silly way to "invest" 140,000 bucks.

At least in my state, you are taking a 7% hit on state/county sales tax, plus some ginormous percentage in ad valorem tax (GA now bills it all in one lump sum, instead of spreading it out over the life of the car, so they can collect many times over on the same car as it changes hands.) So something like 10% is out the door on taxes to start with, meaning the real depreciation will be fierce (from an investor's POV) during the first year. Your $145,000 MSRP car will really cost you about $160,000. Hard to see it being worth that 12 months hence.

And as wisely pointed out, 20 years from now it will be amazing if it's even back to original cost (in real dollars.)

Funny example: I got an itch for a 73 RS 2.7 in 2002. Honed in on a white/red M472 Touring on the west coast, asking 60k. Research showed the guy had paid 42 for it 2 years earlier, but he had receipts for 20k in work, so he was about a wash. Ultimately, even though the car checked out the wife and I (notice the order of those two people? ) decided a beach house was more in order at that time. Fast forward 5 years and the 911RS has gone up about $160,000 in value! WoooHooo!

But the beach house has gone up 480,000 above our cost, including furniture, taxes, etc. (we had an unsolicited written offer in hand at that time.)

Cars just never really make any sense.

mathfuzzy

I, for one, am in red hot suspense.

With just a few hours left on the debate shot clock and the second of two nights sleeping on it behind you, any resolution?

John 996 TT Cab

You still may get the email. 59 names were drawn/chosen. If all 59 not taken up they'll draw more until they've sold all 59.

MJBird993

Not to go too far off topic here, but according to your signature, there are 4700 miles on your 993. Is that right? My poor math skills tells me that means it's been driven an average of 261 miles per year. If that's correct, I've gotta ask: why? (or maybe, why not?)

Anyway, to the OP, it sounds like a lot of money to me. Don't expect it to bring much more in resale than a "normal" 911, especially since you'll be paying closer to sticker than the "normal" 911 buyer. In other words, buy it because you want it, not because it's a good investment.

mathfuzzy

[QUOTE=MJBird993;12149884]Not to go too far off topic here, but according to your signature, there are 4700 miles on your 993. Is that right? My poor math skills tells me that means it's been driven an average of 261 miles per year. If that's correct, I've gotta ask: why? (or maybe, why not?)QUOTE]

Right, good question. The short answer is I've only owned it since Thanksgiving. I bought it from a dear friend, the original owner, who always had at least two other cars to drive, so he used it (obviously) very sparingly.

If you're interested in the (much) longer answer, here's an intro thread that I posted on the 993 forum shortly after getting the car. It's a bit of my personal 911 biography.

https://rennlist.com/forums/993-foru...ction-etc.html

MJBird993

That was a rather long answer, but worth reading, thanks. My 993 was just like yours, red, non-S, except that it had the beige interior and a few more miles (32K-ish) when I sold it. Those pictures bring back memories...

I was also glad to see that you like the 435, nice car. It's on my list for future potential DD duty.

Monetthecat

Sent in the docs confirming intent to purchase. I'll wait to make final decision until I see some numbers including the value of my MY13 C2S used for trade.

If purchased it will not sit in a garage.... Weather permitting it will be driven daily. However, in Chicago that means April-October only

mathfuzzy

Glad you thought it worth reading. Yep,mother 435 is a really nice daily driver. It doesn't make me want to take to the twisties on the weekend but does everything else well. It's a particularly good road trip car and the rear seats (shocker here) get praise from everybody under 5'8". Really glad, even though it was a Custom order, that I got one with a clutch pedal.

And the 993 is pretty special. Not just mine, but the model itself.

mathfuzzy

Well, tentative congrats then. It'll be a helluva distinctive DD!

eldertec

Latest info...E-Mail

We have 23 Club Coupes that are unclaimed for purchase. We'll be contacting the next round of winners on Monday morning.

Make sure to stay close to your phone and emails, as you'll only have 48 hours to confirm your intent to purchase.

rshea

In evaluating the potential for the Club Coupe no one has talked about the fact that: after 2016 most cars derived from the 911 line will be turbo charged to meet gov. standards, the 2016 model year may be the last of the natural breathing engines, the limited edition(60), the fact that there will not be one reserved for the Porsches museum, that there were only 12 Club Coupes(similar car in Green) built for the German Club Anniversary, exclusive color blue( which I believe will remain exclusive because PCA has adapting this specific shade of blue for it's updated trademarks), the Club Coupe badging and other items.....that this car should be on the list of future collectables. It maybe several years out...Like the current SC's, and G50 Carrera's, G50 Club Sport, G50 Turbo look...it took a while for them to get the appreciation they deserve, and the Club Sport was basically a stripped down Carrera that at the time no on wanted. I believe over time this car will follow the same path to uniqueness and value. But I believe the limited run of 60 is the ultimate value drive.
And....you get a great driver in the mean time!

mathfuzzy

I didn't get this message. I wonder if this only went to people who registered but weren't in the initially selected group.

chuck911

Good points. Really good points for just about any other car. For this particular car though it just seems that PCA affinity trumps all. The only people I see really being in this market are big into PCA. And by big I mean huge. And by huge I mean engrossed. And by engrossed I mean a big chunk of your friends, activities and interests involve PCA. And by you I mean you, your wife- and kids too for that matter.

Now probably quite a few will be sold to people who don't fit this group. People like in this thread who talk about all kinds of reasons covering everything except PCA. Those cars will make up the bulk of the used market over the next several years. Some of these will always be floating around. Most of them though will sit tight the next 30 years, being driven on PCA Tours, to Concours, maybe even an autox or DE or two, trips to Parade and other multi-Region events. Anyone not planning on that kind of thing might really want to think about why they really want to get the car in the first place.

Grunty

I am sure you will enjoy it. Should be a lot of fun and will be nice to own in that it's relatively unique.