GreenLantern

That's always going to be the case unless you were born a billionaire.

I missed out on buying a couple McLaren F1's at MSRP (~$875k) because I was either too young, or too poor. They're going for $8m - $10m now.

Vise

Yeah exactly. I asked my sales associate at Porsche for his thoughts on the report from Car Magazine... while he obviously does not have all of the facts either thought this additional perspective was interesting and may be helpful.

To paraphrase his response:

'The horsepower increase will not be that substantial. That is Turbo S power, the author doesn't know what they are talking about. Some of our cars are going down in displacement/cylinders (ie. Turbo 4) but that is being considered for the next gen model and not 991.2'

GreenLantern

The worst part about the media is that they report on rumors reported as news. When enough people report on it, everyone just assumes it's news... but it all originated from one report that was merely rumor.

Vise

Yeah seems like one story/rumor has been reported as fact across the internet... not the first or last time I'm sure. Based on on the long history of the 911 a move like this (500+hp in the S) would be completely out of character for the brand but I suppose crazier things have happened.

That said of any brand I don't see Porsche making a knee-jerk reaction to the latest competitive threats... someone mentioned elsewhere that they don't seem to care much for the horsepower wars or 0-60 bragging rights.

Time will tell I suppose...

porsche9xx

No matter what the changes for '15.5 or '16 I just cant see Porsche blasting the new TT or TTS owner by raising the S HP power anywhere near 500hp. I can't even see them raising the S power higher than the GTS hp. Every move they have made in the last 50 years has been calculated and based on "marketing science" when it comes to increasing power on the new cars. The best example of this was when they first introduced the Cayman they gave it a slight bump to justify the premium over the convertible version.

Its funny now to remember that at a research event I attended for what turned out to be the Cayman they had us selecting price categories for their new unreleased model and one of the comparison models at the event was a Nissan Z. I was pushing for a lower msrp than the Boxster but I guess I lost and Porsche won

Sharm

The October Las Vegas Dealer's meeting just happened. Wish I was a fly on that wall. I would think that if 991.2 was going to release before MY16 (i.e., MY15.5) the dealers would know about it by now. If there is no solid intel on the FI 991.2 yet then I think it'll be MY16 for sure. Anyone out there have any insider information?

Team Plutonium

I still have a hard time believing they'd do this within the 991 range, but who knows... I'll be bummed out, but the silver lining is the modding potential - f@ck, you can crank that sucker up like crazy!

porsche518

I dont see the entire line going turbo. I do see the entire line going hybrid, except for the base carrera. That would give you the power bump everyone wants and preserves the 911 turbo niche.

neanicu

Unfortunately that's the least of our worries :

https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3/...-pathetic.html

Grunty

I for one can't wait for this to be a reality. In the past month I have witnessed two incidents of text driving that could have ended very very badly.

Bring on the autonomous cars. The average driver is a distracted imbecile.

Grunty

Edit: that was intended for thread in Neanicus's link.

Sharm

I recently heard a report on NPR about autonomous or robot driven cars. The experts say they are NOWHERE near prime time, and we will not see them in the near future. Probably a decade out. So no worries on the streets at least. As for the race track, I have no idea.

VOLTCONTROL

Here's a vid of a four pot turbo in a test Cayman on the 'ring.


It's most likely that this will replace the 3.4's, I don't see Porsche phasing out naturally aspirated flat sixes any time soon.

As a 3.4 replacement: If it's more affordable and light with useful torque, bring it on!

STG

The writing is on the wall..

Porsche won't be far behind...

http://www.worldcarfans.com/11412298...-10-new-models

"Speaking of the latter, Audi confirmed plans to launch a "new generation of extremely economical combustion engines and alternative efficiency technologies." The automaker is also focused on plug-in hybrids and noted fuel-cell vehicles can go into series-production as "soon as justified by the market and infrastructure"

ruhlich

Kari:

When I was in engineering school, my biggest fear was piston engines would not exist by the time I graduated. The rotary was making big news then.

When I graduated in 1970, my first job paid $12,000/yr. My new 911E cost a bit over $7,000. So, all things being near equal, you should look forward to starting near $150k when you graduate. A new 911........no problem.